Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by ein0p on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:39PM
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Not true. Germany can prosecute you for "insulting the public officials", Spain - for "insulting the royal family", Poland for "offending the Polish nation", Italy for widely interpreted "criminal defamation", in Greece it is illegal to insult the president, parliament or public officials, in Ukraine saying anything against the prevailing narrative lands you directly in a torture dungeon (like what happened with Gonzalo Lira, who lived in Kharkiv, and was arrested, tortured, and left to die of pneumonia by Ukrainian SBU).
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by luc4 on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:55PM
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At the risk of stating the obvious, you can criticise the government without personally insulting public officals. In fact, in Germany, you can be prosecuted for insulting anyone; there is nothing special about public officials.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by cyberpunk on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:14PM
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This lacks any nuance.
Ukraine is in an active war. They restrict pro-enemy propaganda.
Do you think your outcome would be any different if you publicly posted pro-jihadi anti-American content on social media after 9/11?
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by ein0p on Friday February 28, 2025 @06:37PM
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An US citizen was tortured and effectively murdered, and you're talking to me about "nuance"? WTF?
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by defrost on Friday February 28, 2025 @06:43PM
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"Teeth pulled, fingernails spiked" torture?
Or put in prison during wartime and given a "similar level of healthcare that many in the US prison system receive" torture?
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by ein0p on Friday February 28, 2025 @06:52PM
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No, real, actual torture: https://x.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1686140558803140608
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by oezi on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:50PM
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No slandering laws in the US? I don't think so.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 on Saturday March 01, 2025 @09:13AM
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Also Poland:
- for offending religious feelings
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
by bashback on Saturday March 01, 2025 @02:48AM
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Sure you can, you just have to be "saving democracy" on January 6th or whatever. Then the Supreme Court will practically kiss your ass and invent entire new legal philosophies to let you get away with incitement.
You can't incite violence - and if you do that when there's a riot ongoing, the punishment has resulted in jail time. Anything nazi related is also a no-go