Call it what you like, "San Francisco techy", ""woke"" if you like trendy pejoratives, whatever. I don't care what you want to call it but I won't play along if you intend to say that regional value system is actually uniformly embraced across this country, let alone across the same globe Firefox users are spread across.

In the social sphere Mozilla resides in, voting for a socially conservative political party makes you a fascist which puts you at odds with Mozilla's acceptable use policy if you talk about your politics using Firefox. If Firefox users are supposed to be bound by that document, as judged by Mozilla, that's a problem.

Not everything in the world is about political party your circle disagrees with. Given trends I'm sure Firefox will do something stupid like you're afraid of in short order. But this isnt that, so until then you should save your manufactured culture war fear mongering.

sigh, I feel bad for you... and us Californian techys... this us vs them toxicity is so demoralizing

Not everything is, but Mozilla specifically has been more loud in its support of various political causes most of the world has no interest in than in developing a good web browser for about a decade now, so GP's reaction seems quite appropriate in this case.

Then you’d call Mozilla overly political, not “Californian”

There are many styles of being political, different value systems and approaches to pursuing those values. Mozilla's flavor of political can reasonably be called "Californian". That's not even derogatory so there is no reason for you to act bent out of shape about it. I could have called them woke libtard cryptofacists.

In your estimation, could Brandon Eich explain and defend his political beliefs using Firefox and/or a Mozilla service without running afoul of Mozilla's acceptable use policy, as judged by Mozilla?

I think they would say his beliefs "Threaten, harass, or violate the privacy rights of others".

Any ideological purity test for the use of Firefox is unacceptable. They can have that for their online services if they like, but having such restrictions on the use of Firefox itself is a violation of the essential freedoms of free software.

I think you misunderstood my point. Was that intentional? My assertion was the issue under discussion isn't a political one, and there's no reason to think there is^1. Thus injecting the political issue you're upset about is unreasonable and encourages us vs them fighting; instead of us being on the same side here and resisting Mozilla's attempt to sell user data to AI companies. Because that's all this is about, they want permission to sell your Firefox data to "Big AI".

^1: I do think that you desperately want believe this is about how Firefox is coming after your beliefs, and while maybe they have, or maybe they might. This isn't the step before that, which makes your comment a weird distraction.

> Not everything in the world is about political party your circle disagrees with.

http://web.archive.org/web/20240511204242/https://blog.mozil...