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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by kortilla on Friday February 28, 2025 @02:31AM (#43202755)
This strategy worked out well for FTX
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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by consumer451 on Friday February 28, 2025 @02:36AM (#43202786)
That's not along the same line of thinking.

Theranos was also a fraud. I am not talking about outright fraud.

I am just some shmoe, so I would love someone else to put this more clearly. Is what I originally posted intellectual property/regulatory arbitrage, vs. fraud?

Is there a better way to state this difference?

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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by andy_ppp on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:03AM (#43202987)
As with everything there’s lines you can bend and lines you just don’t cross. Gambling with your clients’ deposits is always going to mean jail time. Timing is also important, for example the US basically has given up on consumer finance protection laws and white collar crime being a thing, so while big companies can still sue you the government will let you get away with anything you like. Go for it!
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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by consumer451 on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:12AM (#43203057)
https://soundcloud.com/anchorball/grifters-paradise

What a time to be alive!

This is generative AI music, aka the future of music?

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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by Puts on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:37AM (#43203224)
It’s funny that AI needs that much auto-tune.
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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by consumer451 on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:39AM (#43203241)
When it doesn't sound like auto-tune is when we really have to worry.
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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by qwertytyyuu on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:02AM (#43202985)
I mean Tesla self driving advertising is as much of a fraud as theranos… maybe it’s not as bad because it wasn’t a medical device?
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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by exe34 on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:47AM (#43203304)
No, it's acceptable because he bought the White House.
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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by Dylan16807 on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:09AM (#43205185)
Promising a of self driving and delivering a much lower level is not nearly as much fraud as "the entire product does nothing". And it being a promise about future improvements also reduces the level of fraud compared to lying about what the product already does.
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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by kortilla on Sunday March 09, 2025 @06:35PM (#43314630)
It’s not though because it somewhat works and the limitations are clear when you use it.

Theranos was completely fraudulent and there was no way to tell.

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Re:Spotify's Beta Used 'Pirate' MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay by mikeryan on Friday February 28, 2025 @09:55AM (#43206273)
Worked out better for Uber and Lyft. Say what you want about how ubiquitous those platforms are these days, they were unlicensed taxi services for years.
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