Agreed with you, although I'd say there is a spectrum between "do everything the hardest way" and "don't learn anything". I think LLM-based tools can be a great time-saver for boilerplate repetitive code, and they can sometimes help you get a first draft of some implementation you're not fully seeing yet, but you definitely should not rely on them to write the whole code for you if you want to learn.

Nope, the theme of the parent was...

>Don't use Copilot, Gemini, Cursor or any other code assisting tool for the several first years of your study or career.

I totally disagree with it too and think its no different than using a book or SO from the past. As a Junior you copy paste many more lines of codes that you don't full appreciate and sometimes it simply just takes time of doing that to absorb the knowledge.

I don't think we disagree at all btw. IMO we all agree understanding of what the spat-out code actually does is mandatory and absolutely is NOT optional. The rest are really just details.

I agree that nowadays LLMs can fill in for SO and Reddit.

Definitely we agree. I was only stating that the OP's opinion of don't use any LLM for the first 3 years could be disastrous.