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Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by _trampeltier on Thursday February 27, 2025 @01:28AM (#43191875)
"Making or selling a signal jammer could lead to up to five years in prison or an unlimited fine."

I can understand you like to make some devices illegal. But really, five years prison, unlimited fine. Is everybody insane now.

Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by boredatoms on Thursday February 27, 2025 @01:32AM (#43191892)
You get less for 34 felonies
Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by creativenolo on Thursday February 27, 2025 @03:14AM (#43192345)
Wow the other comments on this thread are all ironic, exaggerated, and misleading.

A little context is necessary.

“Up to” is worth emphasis. Even if in an extreme scenario a 5 year sentence was disbursed only up to 2.5 years would be in prison (and likely far less), automatic release at 2 thirds in the worst case.

Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by superkuh on Thursday February 27, 2025 @10:08AM (#43195034)
When you are being attacked by a government prosecutor these "up to"s matter very, very much. It allows them to force the acceptance of inappropriate settlements by waving the (very real) possibility of these "up to"s in your face if you try to actually have your case heard in a court.
Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by creativenolo on Thursday February 27, 2025 @04:51PM (#43198900)
From your language, it’s clear you’re not talking from the perspective of the UK’s different legal systems.

They may matter like you say in other systems, but they are not the same in all systems.

Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by superkuh on Thursday February 27, 2025 @11:00PM (#43201561)
True. But in this case many UK localities are adopting these legal practices. It's new, but rising. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/oct/06/rise-of-plea-bar...

"Rise of plea-bargaining coerces young defendants into guilty pleas, says report. US-style negotiations for reduced sentences in England and Wales raises fears of false confessions and lack of informed consent"

Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by optimalplusone on Thursday February 27, 2025 @02:33AM (#43192160)
Standard UK culture. You can be arrested for social media posts.
Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by mathw on Thursday February 27, 2025 @05:17AM (#43192968)
Well of course you can. We have freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences.
Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by r0ckarong on Thursday February 27, 2025 @02:23AM (#43192123)
You're talking about the UK here, have been insane for centuries. And then George Orwell wrote a manual.
Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by throw9494949 on Thursday February 27, 2025 @02:34AM (#43192172)
In UK it is a crime to silently pray at your own home. It is a different culture, court decides who is a criminal. There are no civil liberties or constitution like in US!
Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by rich_sasha on Thursday February 27, 2025 @05:04AM (#43192890)
This is ridiculously untrue. Please do not spread Musk disinformation.

First statue of Liberty, Magna Carta, predates the US itself by more than half a millennium.

Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by creativenolo on Thursday February 27, 2025 @04:58PM (#43198979)
I know. Also, twisted in this comment I think.

The Musk headline was loosely tidied to someone arrested (whilst) praying *outside* and ignores the context of what was happening at the time, and for the many hours before the arrest. Minor details like that.

Happy to live in a legal systems where these devices are banned, and we can cross the road freely.

Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by MrBuddyCasino on Thursday February 27, 2025 @01:56AM (#43191991)
We‘re talking about the UK here. They’ve jumped the shark long ago and are now at the „legislate blunted butter knives“ stage.
Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by rich_sasha on Thursday February 27, 2025 @05:02AM (#43192882)
"Up to". I guess maybe appropriate for a car theft kingpin selling these by the thousand?

How does it compare with the sentence for actual car theft?

Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by TheChaplain on Thursday February 27, 2025 @05:38AM (#43193108)
Car theft is not only a unnecessary cost for the victim, but the whole process it starts demands a significant amount of tax payer money.
Re:Electronic devices used for car thefts set to be banned by _trampeltier on Thursday February 27, 2025 @07:23AM (#43193716)
Car keys are so crap and easy to copy, that's the real crime.