It’s remarkable that instead of curiosity about your argument or the past history of Russia and Ukraine and NATO, the responses you’re getting immediately jump to “Putin koolaid”. It’s not surprising given that almost no one in America has even basic knowledge on this issue, like being aware of the 2014 coup.

But also if you go against HN political orthodoxy, prepare for downvotes. Unfortunately it doesn’t matter if you’re correct or spend the time to write out a really thoughtful comment. The downvotes and low value responses will still come. It’s probably not the right platform for debate outside its Overton window.