'Hey Number 17 '

Re:'Hey Number 17 ' by fragmede on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @03:24PM (#43176899)

The stark reality of capitalism is that it's a business transaction. If they can't make enough profit from the sweatshop to make a profit, why would they keep the factory running? They're not running a charity, so they will just close that factory and open it somewhere else with cheaper labor due to lax labor laws. If X > Y, where X is the cost to operate the factory and Y is the money made from selling the goods from the factory, the factory eventually closes.

I won't shed any tears for capital either, but pretending they're going to operate a charity out of the goodnesses of their hearts and not a business that generates profit is not a winning strategy to get them to socialize the means of production.

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Re:'Hey Number 17 ' by johnnyanmac on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @08:03PM (#43179481)

> If they can't make enough profit from the sweatshop to make a profit, why would they keep the factory running?

Various reasons. It's not like life is as simple as "make profit -> operate".

>They're not running a charity, so they will just close that factory and open it somewhere else with cheaper labor due to lax labor laws.

Okay, and we as a first world country should refuse to work with inhumane companies. If that passes costs to the first world, so be it.

> but pretending they're going to operate a charity out of the goodnesses of their hearts

I don't understand why you're taking the other extreme. You can not treat people like crap even if you are paying bad wages. It's basic respect, and that costs nothing.

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Re:'Hey Number 17 ' by fragmede on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @01:07AM (#43181153)

The difference in price between a flight on Frontier or Spirit, and someone else, or the price between a flight on United in economy vs premium, says that they have worked out a price on basic respect. The fact that people keep giving money to Spirit and Frontier say it's a tradeoff people are willing to make.

They can choose not to treat people like crap, but I don't know about you, but when I go to the store, and the thing I want is made in China for $20 or not for $30, I have a hard time wanting to choose the $30 one over the cheaper one, and factory owners know this.

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Re:'Hey Number 17 ' by johnnyanmac on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @02:23AM (#43181498)

Yes, I am. More conscious about what and who I buy. I don't have perfect information, but I do try to avoid blatantly evil brands. $10 more on my groceries doesn't matter at this point ins life when everything's getting more expensive and worse quality.

I'm not in the best financial situation, but it is one of my missions to try and fight back against this long term. I won't let Apathy erode away at me as well.

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