Signal to leave Sweden if backdoor law passes

Re:Signal to leave Sweden if backdoor law passes by louwrentius on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @09:35AM (#43172366)

You clearly haven't felt a 5$ wrench on your body. Giving up your secrets under torture isn't a character flaw, it's what will happen to 99.99% of people under torture. I can't help you if you don't believe that this is true.

And I hope you understand that 5$ wrench is a euphemism for what would 'really' happen.

All this to say that no, technology does not triumph over politics and policy.

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Re:Signal to leave Sweden if backdoor law passes by throwaway28409 on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @09:44AM (#43172481)

Technology very much does. It's the flesh that has a hard time triumphing over force. To counteract this, you can also engineer a system that can resist it through e.g. split secrets on multiple people located in different jurisdictions.

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Re:Signal to leave Sweden if backdoor law passes by louwrentius on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @10:12AM (#43172888)

If you split a secret over two people, first, we use the 5$ wrench on one of you to identify the other and the rest is easy.

If the second person is somewhere else in a different jurisdiction, how are you going to communicate with each other to get the two halves of the secret together to encrypt/decrypt messages? It's an unworkable situation.

As I see it, you create a fantasy situation that would not work if you just want to communicate with people in a secure way. No amount of technology or encryption is going to work, especially in the real practical world.

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