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Re:Signal to leave Sweden if backdoor law passes by arcbyte on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @09:02AM (#43171958)
There are only a few instances where institutional powers pass judgements that they cannot enforce. Generally doing so makes that institution look weak because it puts them in a position to have their rulings openly flouted. That's at the core of what jurisdiction means.

Sweden can fine Signal all they want but if they can't enforce the collection, they weaken their power and foster disrespect.

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Re:Signal to leave Sweden if backdoor law passes by genewitch on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @09:43AM (#43172467)
Singal is centralized? Can't they just block it at the border? I understand VPN or whatever, but if they're serious I hear there's a couple of countries with "pretty good" border firewalls.

Doing that would eliminate so many Swedes from Signal...

I haven't found a VPN solution for iPhone users in a couple of US states. It's like iphones are actively hostile to the very idea of a VPN. Or at least "self-hosted VPN", maybe the $20/month VPN work but that's... Sketchy.

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Re:Signal to leave Sweden if backdoor law passes by arcbyte on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @11:01AM (#43173584)
You're making my point. Sweden would choose the most effective mechanism that they can actually enforce to deal with Signal's noncompliance. Blocking DNS or ISP access is much more accomplishable for Sweden than trying to levy fines.
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