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Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by jhbadger on Monday February 24, 2025 @11:21PM (#43168150)
And the worst thing is that they may have misunderstood what "probationary employees" were. In federal speak, they are new employees, but the new regime may have thought they were "bad" employees, based on the idea of "probation" in the criminal justice sense.
Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by MengerSponge on Monday February 24, 2025 @11:38PM (#43168244)
It looks more like they're just trying to fire everyone. You know, "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."
Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by consumer451 on Monday February 24, 2025 @11:27PM (#43168182)
We live in such a moronic time that I believe the reason that we are dropping the post-WWII Rules Based Order, is that it is also called the "Liberal" International Order. [0]

Watching a historic empire destroy itself is beyond words. I will miss Pax Americana.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_international_order

Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by rayiner on Monday February 24, 2025 @11:39PM (#43168252)
We are dropping it because it’s bullshit created by the eugenicist woodrow wilson and gave carte blanche for americans to meddle in the affairs of other countries.
Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by consumer451 on Monday February 24, 2025 @11:47PM (#43168293)
The fact that people who by all appearances are intelligent human beings, could post things like this... Nero plays his cithara.

I am at a loss for words. I guess the real problem with propaganda is getting high on your own supply.

edit: As an example, the Supreme Court overturning Chevron deference was a decision against un-elected officials making government calls, instead of the law makers, aka Congress. Now, just months later, here we are. The exact opposite is happening. The most un-elected, un-appointed person in US government history is holding the purse strings, and not a chirp. While Musk's cithara gently weeps.

Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by rayiner on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @12:15AM (#43168432)
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Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by consumer451 on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @12:22AM (#43168466)
> DOGE revealed that USAID was funding political unrest in my home country (where activists recently overthrew the government)

Let's just focus on this part for a moment. Could you please share this evidence?

Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by rayiner on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @12:34AM (#43168538)
For context, you should read about how USAID historically has acted to interfere in the politics of other counties: https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/04/03/cuban-twitter-and-other... https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/04/15/when-is-for... https://www.jstor.org/stable/4017728

As to Bangladesh specifically: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/usaid-b... https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/29m-usaid-fund-went-bangl...

There is no such thing as funding to “strengthen democracy” or whatever euphemisms USAID uses. It’s election interference directed against whatever administration is currently in power in a foreign country.

Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by dashundchen on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @12:58AM (#43168668)
Neither of your articles have any proof or evidence the $20 million funds to Bangladesh are real. It's just what Trump claimed off the cuff.

Trump is a known liar. It's why his supporters are always telling other people not take him literally

They lied about $50 million for condoms in Gaza, just like he lied about Haitian immigrants eating pets and the dozens of other lies he spews out daily.

DOGE has posted a ton of lies about what they saved and cut, including contracts that were already canceled or completed, and including amounts orders of magnitude off.

Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by rayiner on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @07:54AM (#43171247)
Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by dashundchen on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @09:14AM (#43172099)
That still doesn't match what Trump, DOGE/Musk or you claimed.

That organization has many employees, not 2 like Trump claimed.

It operates in countries around the world, not just Bangladesh. It's unlikely all those funds were spent in Bangladesh there like Trump was claiming.

Bangladeshi government officials can't confirm Trump's claim.

Musk/DOGE lied about what the funds were used for, and lied that they somehow saved the money by cancelling the contract - the funds were already almost entirely granted. Cancelling a contract doesn't mean those funds already spent are returned.

The org does monitor elections, but did you know that the US also has international observers during our elections?

There's no indication any funds went to election interference. A quick browse of their site shows they conducted a few surveys and held some workshops to encourage women to engage in the the political process - if you consider that election interference, I'm not sure what that says about you.

Seems like a great idea to me in a country that frequently ranks near the bottom in studies of global women's rights.

This is the problem. Trump and Musk spew out lies and make wild out-of-context claims, they get repeated thought because it fits a partisan view. But it takes effort to debunk lies so they spread faster than they can be responded to.

Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by pjc50 on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @05:00AM (#43170034)
> it’s an excuse for the U.S. to impose its values on the rest of the world

Some of this is bad (war on terror), some of this is good (liberal democracy), and ultimately if you don't like a liberal international order wait until you see what the illiberal one looks like (e.g. Chinese overseas police stations).

Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by rayiner on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @07:55AM (#43171261)
No, “liberal democracy” is bad too. It involves doing things like involving western moral standards in muslim countries and interfering in elections under the pretext of “human rights.” Fighting terrorism is at least beneficial to the U.S.
Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by jisnsm on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @05:14AM (#43170101)
Reading the most extreme advocates of progressivism here defend American imperialism just to oppose Trump is amusing to me.

I used to laugh at the idea of a “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, but now I’m not so sure anymore.

Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by jhbadger on Monday February 24, 2025 @11:53PM (#43168321)
China (who has no idea who Wilson was) has the Belt and Road Initiative, and they'll gladly win the hearts and minds of third world nations the US is foolish enough to abandon.
Re:Everyone at NSF overseeing the Platforms for Wireless Exp... by insane_dreamer on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @07:24PM (#43179227)
If it's intentional, then they are deliberately sabotaging the US's leadership in technological research for the sake of looking like they're doing something. Which is a terrible strategy.

If it's unintentional, then DOGE faile the critical thinking test. Doesn't say much for them or their leadership.