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Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by clcaev on Monday February 24, 2025 @05:14PM (#43165560)
Is Jevons’ applicable here? People only have a fixed square footage in their house that needs to be lit, and often negative utility to having rooms lit all of the time.
Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by edflsafoiewq on Monday February 24, 2025 @05:24PM (#43165646)
HOA I know wants every house to have more lights kept on all night (for "safety"). They explicitly say LEDs are what makes this cost effective.
Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by dmix on Monday February 24, 2025 @07:14PM (#43166545)
How is that enforced in practice?
Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by formerly_proven on Monday February 24, 2025 @05:20PM (#43165610)
If electricity were cheaper you might turn the lights higher instead of balancing cost vs. comfort, wouldn't use the eco-mode on the dishwasher that occasionally results in dirty dishes, would probably not think twice about washing clothes at 30 °C instead of 40 °C, maybe use a dryer instead of clothes racks blocking the living room for a day, use the more comfortable tankless warm water heater, properly preheating the oven giving you the results you want etc. pp. ... the list is endless.

But electricity often costs upwards of 30 cents/kWh nowadays, so you avoid doing all those comfy things. 'cause they're expensive.

Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by mikeyouse on Monday February 24, 2025 @05:29PM (#43165711)
My power is still $0.11/kwh... I haven't turned off my christmas lights in 3 years. There are huge swaths of the US where power is still (relatively) dirt cheap and nobody thinks twice about the heavy soil function on the dishwasher or leaving landscaping lights on.

This list matches my experience; https://www.electricchoice.com/electricity-prices-by-state/

Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by dworkr on Monday February 24, 2025 @05:35PM (#43165760)
If I have to spend more than 30% of my monthly budget on power, I will not be taking cold showers or living in the cold. Consuming energy replaces other hobbies. High energy prices have been normalized, at least in my state. Same with gas. People had to stop caring, or leave.