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Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by coliveira on Monday February 24, 2025 @09:11AM (#43159741)
> If you want to grow the real economy, build houses and reduce the cost of living.

Yes, I wonder why it is so hard for Western countries to understand that there's no future in a place where housing is more expensive than your average salary. If may look cool for a few years until most people have left or are living on the streets.

Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by bufferoverflow on Monday February 24, 2025 @11:20AM (#43161307)
Plenty of housing. The problem is, people want cheap housing in places where everyone wants to live. I don't think that will happen any time soon.
Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by coliveira on Monday February 24, 2025 @12:01PM (#43161895)
This is a non-sense that spreads because of North American style of housing. If you're talking about sprawling suburban houses then you're right. But big cities have provided reasonable housing for lots of workers for centuries. The only thing you need is to build more apartments in the cities that have an excess of job positions.
Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by bufferoverflow on Monday February 24, 2025 @04:53PM (#43165384)
No, you can't just "build more apartments". For these new inhabitants you will need more grocery stores, more bus/subway stops and overall transportation, more hospitals, more firefighters, more restaurants, more gyms, more tennis courts, more of everything.
Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by coliveira on Monday February 24, 2025 @05:40PM (#43165795)
Of course. Big cities with all this infrastructure are nothing new. They existed in the past and are big in alive in Asia and other parts of the world. Only in North America we have this bizarre world where it seems like a strange thing to build cities and provide infrastructure for workers!
Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by rendang on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @03:45PM (#43177168)
There is basically no large city outside of subsaharan African & maybe the subcontinent that has that development style and anything even approaching a sustainable 2.1 total fertility rate
Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by hollandheese on Monday February 24, 2025 @02:01PM (#43163432)
There is no cheap housing anywhere in the entire state of California. In the worst and poorest parts of the state where are basically no jobs or anything the housing is still way more expensive than anyone can afford.
Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by bufferoverflow on Monday February 24, 2025 @04:49PM (#43165347)
So move out of there. Plenty of cheap housing in the country.
Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by tonyhart7 on Monday February 24, 2025 @09:16AM (#43159788)
"there's no future in a place where housing is more expensive than your average salary."

don't get me wrong, everyone want cheaper housing but not their house

Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by sudosysgen on Monday February 24, 2025 @10:39AM (#43160767)
I for one would love it. If I have to sell housing then I have to buy housing, it's not a benefit to me unless I reduce my quality of life.
Re:Microsoft Cancels Leases for AI Data Centers, Analyst Says by mrbigbob on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @07:27AM (#43171004)
Maybe its time we stop seeing housing as an investment and more of a place to shelter oneself from the elements. One of the core pillars of survival