Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by brookst on Saturday February 22, 2025 @03:47AM
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It’s the lying that gets companies in trouble.
The claim is that Google has implemented a security weakness and lied about it in claims to customers and investors.
Show me another company that did this, was exposed, and was not sued.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by tsimionescu on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:35AM
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You are extremely naive if you think a company the size of Google or Microsoft or Apple will face any serious consequence from lying about E2EE actually being open to various governments.
They have lawyers aplenty, governments would file amicus briefs "explaining" E2EE and so on. Worse case they'll settle for a pittance.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by ipaddr on Saturday February 22, 2025 @08:10AM
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Those companies never get sued? Never face class action lawsuits either?
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by brookst on Saturday February 22, 2025 @11:44PM
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So all you’ve got is hypotheticals that coincidentally confirm your biases? These are giant companies. Show me where a civil suit for lying about a product’s security was defended by this kind of claim.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by alt227 on Saturday February 22, 2025 @05:03AM
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> It’s the lying that gets companies in trouble.
It isnt if the government have asked them to lie.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by 1oooqooq on Saturday February 22, 2025 @06:42PM
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yahoo sued the govt and was able to go public almost a decade later. as i said, history already proved that argument wrong.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by wkat4242 on Saturday February 22, 2025 @09:25AM
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Oh thanks. I've never done that before. I'll try that, it'll be very interesting to see those disclaimers.
I guess for consumer use all that stuff is hidden in the T&C legalese which is unreadable for normal people. I know the EU was trying to enforce that there must be a TL;DR in normal language but I haven't seen much effect of that yet.
they also employ things like exempt cases. for example, Whatsapp advertise E2E... but connect for the first time with a business account to see all the caveats that in plain text just means "meta will sign your messages from this point on with a dozen keys"