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Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by amrodst on Friday February 21, 2025 @01:17PM (#43130947)
Removing something critical and seeing what happens is a methodology used by Musk in all his companies: remove LIDAR from self driving car, remove flame trench from spaceship launch pad, etc. Results may vary.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Friday February 21, 2025 @01:33PM (#43131157)
"Results may vary" is not an acceptable methodology for the US Government, when millions of lives are potentially at stake.

Ed: among the ways millions of lives could be lost: losing control of our nuclear arsenal or nuclear materials due to haphazardly firing people responsible for maintaining them. Bungling the response to the next pandemic, due to haphazardly firing people, cutting science funding and deleting inconvenient data. Starvation and disease from ceasing aid around the world. There's also the wars likely to result from the collapse of trust in the US as a security partner, but I suppose it's not correct to blame that on DOGE per se, even if it's an extension of the same principle.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by nuancebydefault on Friday February 21, 2025 @03:46PM (#43132765)
Sometimes people (e.g. US voters) will only learn by running into a wall. How all exactly will turn out is hard to tell and frankly maybe we better don't know. I'm tending to the conclusion there's no way around the movement of the big picture, the shifting of geo-political order in the world.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Friday February 21, 2025 @08:18PM (#43135100)
Certainly, global trust in the US is already gone. That's locked in for the foreseeable future.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Friday February 21, 2025 @01:41PM (#43131249)
This seems circular, since your opinion, views, thoughts, etc., are what the opposing factions are rejecting ( or de-legitimizing) in the first place.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Friday February 21, 2025 @02:00PM (#43131478)
People disagree with my opinion, therefore it's circular? Interesting logic.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Friday February 21, 2025 @02:13PM (#43131626)
Did you read the remainder of the comment?

It seems pretty clear to me at least why it would lead to circular arguments.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Friday February 21, 2025 @02:52PM (#43132135)
At this point, I've presented a handful of fairly straightforward hypotheses about cause and effect. They could be wrong, but it's on you to show that they're actually self-referential. There is no amount or kind of other people's opinions that will make them so.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Friday February 21, 2025 @05:34PM (#43133879)
Your opinions do not automatically turn into credible “hypotheses”…?

There is no such mechanism.

If there was then the vast majority of political debates on HN wouldn’t even exist.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Friday February 21, 2025 @06:06PM (#43134209)
Who said a hypothesis is automatically credible? Not me.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Friday February 21, 2025 @08:22PM (#43135126)
If they’re not credible… then why would any one care…?

Readers are just going to assume it’s random noise, or at least indistinguishable from noise, from a rando on the internet.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Friday February 21, 2025 @08:29PM (#43135172)
That's equally true of all internet comments. None of us here on HN have or are claiming automatic credibility. We just make arguments that make sense to us. Feel free to close the tab if you don't find any value in this activity.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Friday February 21, 2025 @10:08PM (#43135706)
So then what makes your opinions “hypotheses”?

Sufficient chimpanzees with keyboards, or an LLM, can also type out every comment you’ve ever written, including the last few.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Friday February 21, 2025 @10:16PM (#43135749)
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Friday February 21, 2025 @10:57PM (#43135953)
I clearly don’t think your opinions match the definition found in merriam webster… or else I wouldn’t have asked.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by swiftcoder on Saturday February 22, 2025 @01:55PM (#43141893)
You don't think his comment is "an assumption put forward for the purposes of discussion"? That seems a fairly low and generic bar for a comment to reach...
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Saturday February 22, 2025 @07:04PM (#43144671)
I don’t think the parent meant that interpretation, as that would also apply to the output of sufficient chimpanzees bashing keyboard and LLMs too…

Which would be practically meaningless without some attached non-zero credibility.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by swiftcoder on Sunday February 23, 2025 @04:34AM (#43148047)
I mean, we're all chimpanzees bashing keyboards around here, at least till proven otherwise
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Sunday February 23, 2025 @10:49AM (#43150100)
Yeah, hence why I asked… otherwise anyone on HN, including me, could say their opinions are hypotheses too, to be taken just as seriously as the parent’s.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Sunday February 23, 2025 @05:45PM (#43153955)
You still don't know what a hypothesis is, after I linked the dictionary definition.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:18PM (#43225684)
This is still indistinguishable from meaningless noise, since your opinion can’t ever outweigh anyone else’s opinions…
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Saturday February 22, 2025 @09:46PM (#43145901)
Truthfully, I hold those ideas a little more confidently than purely "for the purposes of discussion", but I suspect you at least understand that the real-world usage of "hypothesis" is quite broad.

I'm kind of tickled at the idea that a "hypothesis" is some hyper-specific thing with trappings of "credibility", and that anything less would be an insult, like we're not all just a bunch of nerds arguing on the internet. It's also kind of sad, though. This is why computer people need liberal arts education.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Sunday February 23, 2025 @10:53AM (#43150133)
Still seems closer to noise/LLM ravings than substance.

Are you ever going to directly answer the previous few questions?

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Sunday February 23, 2025 @11:11AM (#43150319)
I did, comprehensively, but you're apparently not smart enough to understand.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by MichaelZuo on Sunday February 23, 2025 @02:34PM (#43152391)
Are those who downvoted enough to grey your comment out… not “smart enough” either?
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Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by jounker on Friday February 21, 2025 @02:18PM (#43131694)
My friend is a doctor. Her profession uses sections of the NIH and CDC websites on a daily basis. They are the references for drug interactions with medical conditions. These sections are just gone.

Trump’s “cost saving” measures are already actively harming medical treatment in the USA.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by cbracketdash on Friday February 21, 2025 @02:41PM (#43131985)
I'm sure the NIH isn't the only entity with access to pharmacology information...
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by jtgeibel on Friday February 21, 2025 @10:30PM (#43135819)
I doubt adding paywalls and more 3rd parties will help reverse the trend of rising healthcare costs. But also, just why? Why not keep this information that our tax dollars have already paid for in the public domain? I thought we were supposed to care about efficiency and that information wanted to be free.
Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by elcritch on Saturday February 22, 2025 @01:17PM (#43141534)
> Bungling the response to the next pandemic, due to haphazardly firing people, cutting science funding and deleting inconvenient data.

That’s possible, however, it’s possible it’ll give a chance to remove autocrats who have suppressed the scientific method in favor of their prevailing opinions or preferences.

There will be a painful period but it could rejuvenate the systems.

Re:Reality has a surprising amount of detail (2017) by andrewflnr on Saturday February 22, 2025 @02:08PM (#43142054)
But consider, what if we rejuvenated our health infrastructure in a way that isn't blazingly incompetent? Suppose you learned enough about the systems currently being smashed to specifically fire the "autocrats" and leave the competent people? Are you seeing where the importance of detail comes in?