Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by kouru225 on Friday February 21, 2025 @12:36PM
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I’m at the point where I’m ready to get a pixel and install graphene
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Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by noescgchq on Friday February 21, 2025 @12:42PM
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Right but then you are jailed at Heathrow for not unlocking your phone.
The UK has made it clear that Counter Terrorism legislation has no limits in UK law even if that means compromising all systems and leaving them vulnerable to state actor attacks.
MPs will continue to use encrypted messaging systems that disappear messages during any inquiries of course.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by shaky-carrousel on Friday February 21, 2025 @01:23PM
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You can provide a self destroy PIN with GrapheneOS.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by runjake on Friday February 21, 2025 @01:33PM
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And that certainly wouldn't raise their suspicion. Surely, they'd immediately let you go after that stunt.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by dclowd9901 on Friday February 21, 2025 @02:44PM
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But it would be up to him, wouldn't it? I think that's the main deal here: cart blanche access to your data, or giving into someone's bullshit fishing attempt because it's inconvenient.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by shaky-carrousel on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:40AM
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Of course they could throw a tantrum, but it wouldn't be nothing but that, and they will have to release you once they cool down.
What are they going to say? That they won't release you until you magically unerase the phone? There's nothing to wait for.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by Aachen on Saturday February 22, 2025 @07:07AM
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I agree there is nothing to coerce out of you anymore and so you'd not be held on this forced decryption law... but not complying with such a court order probably results in another offence for which you can then get punished (not sure if a fine, community service, or jail time would be most likely for this), on top of that it doesn't look good to the judge who presides over the original case in which they de demanded the decryption in the first place
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by sangnoir on Friday February 21, 2025 @12:50PM
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Schiphol was already the superior airport for connections anyway, not being arrested just sweetens the deal.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by fdb345 on Friday February 21, 2025 @01:32PM
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Except no one has ever been jailed for simply refusing to unlock a phone unless there was heavy evidence there was something on the phone.
Stop spreading incorrect FUD
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by timc3 on Friday February 21, 2025 @01:38PM
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No one that we have heard of yet.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by okasaki on Friday February 21, 2025 @06:33PM
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You're an ignorant fool: https://www.theregister.com/Print/2009/11/24/ripa_jfl/
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by fdb345 on Saturday February 22, 2025 @05:38AM
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LOL literally a suspected terrorsit.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by Aachen on Saturday February 22, 2025 @06:45AM
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Being in court for something doesn't make you guilty of said thing. What's the "heavy evidence" you say they had before jailing this person?
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by aqueueaqueue on Friday February 21, 2025 @05:09PM
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Take a dumb phone (or none)?
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by varispeed on Friday February 21, 2025 @12:39PM
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Until it will be illegal to do so.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by wishfish on Friday February 21, 2025 @09:32PM
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I'm in a similar position. Strongly considering replacing my iPhone with a Pixel. But I realize I'm vulnerable via cloud services. GrapheneOS won't save me from someone poking through my Dropbox. I'll have to find another option for that too.
Re:Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK
by AlgebraFox on Saturday February 22, 2025 @10:37AM
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Nextcloud works great on GrapheneOS if you are willing to self host.