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Re:The most underreported story in AI is that scaling has fa... by comeonbro on Thursday February 20, 2025 @02:04PM (#43118700)
Gary Marcus has made himself the most prominent proponent of "deep learning is a parlor trick and cannot create real AI" (note: deep learning, not just LLMs), which he has been saying almost unmodified from before LLMs even existed to now.

Though I think he might have stopped setting specific concrete goalposts to move, sometime between when I last checked in on him and now. After (often almost instantly) losing a couple dozen consecutive rounds of "LLMs/deep learning fundamentally cannot/will never", while never acknowledging any of it.

Re:The most underreported story in AI is that scaling has fa... by tartoran on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:28PM (#43119752)
What does it mean when someone is sticking to their guns? Is it a bad thing? I do appreciate consistency, albeit a fair consistency and Gary Marcus's points do stand. When these criticisms are addressed (if it's possible to) you'd probably hear less from Gary Marcus.
Re:The most underreported story in AI is that scaling has fa... by th0ma5 on Thursday February 20, 2025 @02:12PM (#43118811)
There's also a perspective that all of the ongoing problems have been the same while newer techniques shove them under different rugs. So I can see how that would look like that to the credulous.
Re:The most underreported story in AI is that scaling has fa... by unclebucknasty on Thursday February 20, 2025 @07:21PM (#43122445)
This is exactly what's happening, with the additional feature that the newer techniques likewise come with their own hype.
Re:The most underreported story in AI is that scaling has fa... by garymarcus on Thursday February 20, 2025 @08:08PM (#43122849)
Show me the goalposts I have moved, with actual quotes to prove it. nobody ever has when I have asked.

Aso consider eg the bets I have made with Miles Brundage (and offered to Musk(, with money where I have backed up my views.

good summary of predictions i made - mostly correct – is here: https://open.substack.com/pub/garymarcus/p/25-ai-predictions...