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Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by theultdev on Thursday February 20, 2025 @12:12PM (#43117357)
> I have common sense.

So no you don't have any actual evidence.

> An actual audit would be great, but would take more than the 30 days that Trump has been in office.

Right, which is why it's still ongoing. They have a year to complete it.

Everyone is all parroting democrat talking points about Elon, I'm just enjoying seeing all the billions in crap get cut.

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by arrosenberg on Thursday February 20, 2025 @12:14PM (#43117392)
> Right, which is why it's still ongoing. They have a year to complete it.

So maybe the President's special boy shouldn't be tweeting that 150 year olds are receiving Social Security payments because he doesn't understand cobol's datetime system. That only way I take these people seriously is the way I would take a toddler with a lit torch seriously.

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by ganoushoreilly on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:00PM (#43117981)
We don't have the data in front of us to actually prove your point one way or the other. Resulting to name calling and hyper emotional responses doesn't elicit the behavior of cooperation. Instead, engage on data and facts.

If you said "He's making statements without any data to back up his claims" I'd respond, at this point you're correct, we do not have the data to verify. Collectively we could ask for more transparency. The result is we agree more data is needed.

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by Aushin on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:33PM (#43118328)
A few replies up, when presented with a clear example of the DOGE team having carte blanche access to sensitive government data, you handwaved it away. Don't accuse other people of being hyper-emotional when your own reasoning is so plainly motivated by political sentiment.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by ganoushoreilly on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:01PM (#43119419)
I didn't. The report came out that it was an accident that was directly rectified. Show me where that's wrong and hand wavy.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by Aushin on Thursday February 20, 2025 @04:12PM (#43120252)
You're telling us to trust the word of people who were caught either lying or being staggeringly incompetent. It's irrational. You're letting your political sentiments cloud your judgement. You're having an emotionally-driven reaction.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by ganoushoreilly on Thursday February 20, 2025 @04:59PM (#43120837)
You’re telling us to trust the word of people being caught either lying or being staggeringly incompetent.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by pests on Thursday February 20, 2025 @04:02PM (#43120152)
While I disagree with everything going on, the cobol date time thing is just some myth everyone came up with. Go find me a single source to that claim because I can’t.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by aredox on Thursday February 20, 2025 @04:42PM (#43120633)
The claims from Musk are complete garbage and I have the receipts to show it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43116844

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by pests on Saturday February 22, 2025 @02:07PM (#43142031)
Now that’s the type of report I like to see. Not “transparency” via tweets.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by JohnMakin on Thursday February 20, 2025 @12:34PM (#43117676)
So, where is your evidence that fraud of such scale is happening in the federal budget that requires unprecedented (and likely extremely illegal) access by people who are not qualified to be running a gas station IT system, let alone the entire financial and IT backend of the federal government? This is such a dishonest discussion and I suspect you types know it.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by theultdev on Thursday February 20, 2025 @12:38PM (#43117725)
The audit will continue, sorry. Fraud has already been posted everywhere ($55b and counting) so if you haven't seen it, you aren't looking.

Maybe Democrats won't lose every branch next time and you guys can have a say.

The people want this audit, despite what HN is parroting.

I bet you'll cash that $5k check you get from the savings.

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by hypothesis on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:14PM (#43118129)
> Fraud has already been posted everywhere ($55b and counting) so if you haven't seen it, you aren't looking.

Not too surprising to find another propaganda victim…

Here, I did your research for you:

> After correcting an apparent clerical error, it now shows $8.5 billion.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302705/doge-overstates...

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by archagon on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:38PM (#43119843)
Further proof that this is not an “audit,” but a show trial.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by Aushin on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:36PM (#43118350)
And NPR could only confirm 2 billion of those contracts were actually canceled. It's an endless fountain of bullshit.
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by ganoushoreilly on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:01PM (#43119424)
Cool, then why are you so upset?
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by thr0w4w47 on Thursday February 20, 2025 @04:01PM (#43120136)
He doesn't seem upset to me.

Why can't you follow comment guidelines?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by ganoushoreilly on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:09PM (#43120944)
Why do you keep posting this in every discussion?
Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by thr0w4w47 on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:00PM (#43117982)
Frivolous spending != fraud.

Please read commenting guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by theultdev on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:25PM (#43118237)
Is there a difference when it comes to the taxpayer?

It's all waste. Fraud if there were kickbacks, we'll see about that.

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by thr0w4w47 on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:35PM (#43118342)
Maybe there is no difference, but I think honest framing matters.

> "Fraud has already been posted everywhere ($55b and counting)"

I'm looking for some evidence to support your $55 billion fraud claim, not just $55 billion in waste. If it's been "posted everywhere", please link to it!

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by theultdev on Thursday February 20, 2025 @02:08PM (#43118754)
> just $55 billion in waste

"Just" lol. After a month.

Replace the fraud w/ waste if that makes you feel better about the audit.

I'm sure investigations will reveal fraud, it takes awhile to build a case.

But even if there is zero fraud (fat chance), gotta love the savings from waste cuts!

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by thr0w4w47 on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:04PM (#43120892)
Dang, I was really excited to read about the $55 billion in fraud after you claimed that it has been "posted everywhere". :(

Please let me know when you find the evidence!

Also, I never said I dislike the audit. I do, however, dislike dishonest framing.

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by theultdev on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:16PM (#43121021)
Again, we'll just say it's "waste" until investigations complete.

Glad I could frame it better for you so you can feel good about the savings.

Also glad to hear you like or are at least content with the audit, since you don't "dislike" it.

Re:DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data by thr0w4w47 on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:23PM (#43121099)
Yup. We'll see how it goes.