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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by OsrsNeedsf2P on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:02PM (#43105180)
"Sorry, I only use Signal" has worked nearly a decade for me
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by echelon_musk on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:37PM (#43105644)
Virtue Signalling!
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by throwawayq3423 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:46PM (#43105771)
Which is bad, how?
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by potato3732842 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:56PM (#43105888)
It's a joke, because virtue signaling (or whatever name you want to give it) is bad, but Signal the messenger app is good so it's a play on words.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by heyloolma on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @02:19PM (#43106211)
It’s not bad. It just IS.

the only people that think it is bad are people who have a different opinion and feel attacked for whatever reason. I find it telling when people accuse others of virtue signaling because it is almost always someone who is jealous or insecure attacking said signaler.

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by DFHippie on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:55PM (#43107535)
"Virtue signaling" in theory means "talking the talk without walking the walk", but it's generally thrown out by people who make no effort to assess whether the person criticized is walking the walk or even in contradiction of such evidence.

Driving an economically efficient car -- choosing any sort of car -- has enormous consequences on one's life, for example. Choosing to by a particular car isn't a decision made lightly. But Prius drivers back in the day were accused of virtue signaling, as though the Prius were equivalent to a temporary tattoo.

In fact, speaking of temporary tattoos, simply having a bumper sticker advocating for animal rights, say, belief in anthropogenic climate change, or peace in the Middle East will expose one to regular displays of hostility and aggression, so it isn't a cheap signal.

In other words, in my experience your observation is spot on.

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by root_axis on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:04PM (#43108335)
> "Virtue signaling" in theory means "talking the talk without walking the walk"

Virtue signaling means sending deliberate signals about your virtues, whether you "walk the walk" or not. People are often critiqued for going to uncomfortable lengths to signal their virtues, but something as simple as a "meat is murder" shirt or a MAGA hat is also virtue signaling.

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by golergka on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:06PM (#43105232)
What if you need to contact someone and they use whatsapp?
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by croes on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:18PM (#43105392)
What if they want to contact you and you use Signal?
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by jisnsm on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @02:04PM (#43106008)
Luckily, with the technological advances in the last months, it is now possible to install more than one app on a phone at a time.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by maigret on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @02:28PM (#43106329)
It is also possible to communicate without using Meta services.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by tumsfestival on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:08PM (#43106901)
Good luck with that depending on where you live.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by accrual on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:30PM (#43107222)
And when you live. The 20s-30s year old crowd I interact with seems to avoid, if not mock FB. I recognize it has its uses and benefits, though.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by jisnsm on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:05PM (#43108342)
They mock fb whilst they use instagram and WhatsApp.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by inetknght on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:18PM (#43108473)
> it is now possible to install more than one app on a phone at a time.

And, in doing so, achieve the security posture of the worse of the apps!

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by Henchman21 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:12PM (#43105314)
IME you say “Sorry I only use Signal” and either they change or you don’t get in contact with that person.

If you change and abandon your principles were they really principles in the first place?

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by golergka on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:21PM (#43105437)
How do you tell that to them in the first place? You got someone's phone number. The person who gives it to you tells them that they use whatsapp. You can't even tell them "Sorry I only use Signal" unless you open whatsapp app.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by basisword on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:51PM (#43105828)
You realise you could use that phone number to...call them and let them know? Also - in what situation are they giving you a phone number and telling you they use WhatsApp but you having no way to respond when receiving that info? If it's in person you can explain at the time. If it's taken from a website, call them. Or you can even fall back on SMS.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by prmoustache on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:58PM (#43105925)
If they can't reach you via whatsapp, they will call you.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by kelnos on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:56PM (#43108268)
Presumably at the time they've given you their phone number, they've told you that they are on WhatsApp, and then you've responded directly that you're only on Signal.

If there is a communications channel by which they can give you their phone number, you can use that same channel to discuss what messenger to use.

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by ycombinatrix on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:24PM (#43105478)
Not GP - I tolerate Whatsapp but I draw the line at SMS.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by tremon on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:06PM (#43107696)
For me it's the other way around: I tolerate SMS but I draw the line at Whatsapp.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by imp0cat on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:29AM (#43111750)
Sounds like someone who never had to pay for each SMS.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by tremon on Friday February 21, 2025 @07:52PM (#43134939)
Sounds like someone shouldn't have skipped those perspective-taking classes in kindergarten.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by root_axis on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:13PM (#43105325)
RCS?
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by immibis on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:20PM (#43105426)
If you really really really need to? You use Whatsapp.

If you don't need to? You tell them to get Signal.

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by Fnoord on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:31PM (#43105580)
You call them. Or use SMS. Or use e-mail.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by bdangubic on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:02PM (#43105185)
same