Re:Grok3 Launch
by mechagodzilla on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @04:20PM
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I have a used workstation I got for $2k (with 768GB of RAM) - using the Q4 model, I can get about 1.5 tokens/sec and use very large contexts. It's pretty awesome to be able to run it at home.
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Re:Grok3 Launch
by MysticFear on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @05:05PM
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Would love to know more info & specs of your workstation.
Re:Grok3 Launch
by mechagodzilla on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @08:52PM
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It's an HP Z8 G4 (dual-socket 18-core, 3 GHz Xeons, 24x32GB of DDR4-2666, and then a crappy GPU, 8TB HDD, 1TB SSD). It can accommodate 3 dual-slot GPUs, but I was mostly interested in playing with frontier models where holding all the weights in VRAM requires a ~$500k machine. It can run the full Deepseek R1, Llama3-405B, etc, usually around 1-2 tokens/sec.
For me, where electricity is $0.45/kWh, assuming 1kW consumption, it would be around $80 USD/million!
Re:Grok3 Launch
by CyberDildonics on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @10:49PM
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I think you might have to show your math on that one.
They said 1.5 tokens/second. 1 mil tokens is 667k seconds is 185 hours per million tokens. 1kW * 185hr * $0.45/kWh = $80 per million tokens. Again, assuming 1kW, which may be high (or low). The cost of the physical computation is electricity cost.
Re:Grok3 Launch
by CyberDildonics on Thursday February 20, 2025 @01:36PM
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They said it has a crappy GPU, the whole computer probably only uses 200 - 250 watts.
No way. 768GB of ram will have significant power draw. DDR4 (which this probably is) is something like 3W/8GB. That's > 250W alone.
So, say 500W. That's, for me in my expensive electricity city, $40/million tokens, with the pretty severe rate limit of 5600 tokens/hours.
If you're in Texas, that would be closer to $10/million tokens! Now you're at the same price as GPT-4o.
But you can run and experiment with any model of your liking. And your data does not leave your desktop environment. You can build services. I don't think anybody doing this is doing it to save $20 a month.
Yes. I was only making a monetary comparison.
Related, you can get a whole lot of cloud computing for $2k, for those same experiments, on much faster hardware.
But yes, the data stays local. And, it's fun.
This comment chain is pretty funny.