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Re:Grok3 Launch by gmerc on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @11:34AM (#43091693)
DeepSeek just showed the compute edge is not that hard to match. They could have chosen to keep the gains proprietary but probably made good money playing the market instead, quants as they are.

https://centreforaileadership.org/resources/deepseeks_narrat...

If you’re using your compute capacity at 1.25% efficiency, you are not going to win because your iteration time is just going to be too long to stay competitive.

Re:Grok3 Launch by scarmig on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @12:01PM (#43092083)
Software and algorithmic improvements diffuse faster than hardware, even with attempts to keep them secret. Maybe a company doubles the efficiency, but in 3 months, it's leaked and everyone is using it. And then the compute edge becomes that much more durable.
Re:Grok3 Launch by mirekrusin on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @11:46AM (#43091889)
Optimisation efforts don’t negate investment in capacity but multiply output.
Re:Grok3 Launch by Tycho on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @11:41AM (#43091811)
Sorry, you missed the point - DeepSeek tried some new software ideas, they did not manage to secure the same computation capacity.
Re:Grok3 Launch by gmerc on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @12:26PM (#43092465)
They achieved the same results for 1.25% of the computation cost... If they actually had that computation capacity, it would be game over with the AGI race by the same logic.