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Re:Grok3 Launch by qgin on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @06:18AM (#43088308)
The premise is that this ultimately replaces all intellectual and physical labor for the rest of time. It’s possible it becomes commoditized as soon as it exists, but in terms of investment dollars it’s either worth as much as you can spend or nothing at all.
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Re:Grok3 Launch by pjc50 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @07:58AM (#43088960)
> ultimately replaces all intellectual and physical labor for the rest of time

Sounds incredibly valuable, but in reality collapses into Butlerian Jihad fairly quickly when you have 90% unemployment.

Edit: if the claims are true, then this will be far more destabilizing than social media. What do elections mean when the AI-guided political parties are putting out AI press releases for the AI press summaries, which voters have read out to them through their AI? What happens when >50% of the voters ask the AI who they should vote for? You end up with an AI dictatorship where the levers of discontent are fake.

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Re:Grok3 Launch by conartist6 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @08:06AM (#43089022)
Yeah at some point it seems inevitable that if machines do all the work that creates real "value" and people have no comparable value, in a very practical sense we will all be slaves to machines
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Re:Grok3 Launch by thrance on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @08:47AM (#43089400)
Like in Dune, we won't be slaves to the machines, but to the people owning the machines.
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Re:Grok3 Launch by mwigdahl on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @09:27AM (#43089840)
"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them." -- Frank Herbert, _Dune_
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Re:Grok3 Launch by kadushka on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:33AM (#43098911)
Are we free today? For example, I have to work for a living. If I don't, my family and I will be miserable. Let's just hope that future "men with machines" don't decide to kill the rest of us - I'm not sure what use we will be to them.
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Re:Grok3 Launch by fragmede on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:53AM (#43100419)
Your choice is corporations, government, or billionaires. One of those is going to be the "men with machines" that has use for the rest of us.
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Re:Grok3 Launch by qgin on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @09:52AM (#43102729)
I think this is the key change. We’re already beholden to a “machine” (the economy) that none of us completely understand or control or created explicitly. It has its own goals and tendencies that emerged from the complexity.

What AI and robotics does is actually create a machine that has no use for humans at all. Ñ

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Re:Grok3 Launch by ben_w on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @01:28PM (#43093284)
> Sounds incredibly valuable, but in reality collapses into Butlerian Jihad fairly quickly when you have 90% unemployment.

But nobody really knows if that happens or not as a consequence, let alone quickly, because the transition itself only happened at all so far in fiction.

Whatever does happen, I think it's going to be a surprise to at a minimum 80% of the population.

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