However, scientists have repeatedly shown that they cause a statistically significant increase in all cause mortality.

If you take the random word generator that is RFK’s mouth, then filter it with reproducible scientific studies, the result is probably actually better than what previous political appointees have produced.

I’ve already expressed skepticism about the second step, where science is involved. Still, I can hope.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35658669/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25804833/

^—- Conclusions: The consumption of ultra-processed products (i.e. foods with low nutritional value but high energy density) has increased dramatically in Sweden since 1960, which mirrors the increased prevalence of obesity. Future research should clarify the potential causal role of ultra-processed products in weight gain and obesity.

So, the last one has a quantitative definition that could be used for a preliminary ban.

Also, all those articles link many more. One click deep will provide a dozen concurring studies. I didn’t feel like adding more links.

Also the GOP opposed mere taxes on sugary drinks but now they want to ban UPFs? I don't believe it.

That’s why I said “preliminary”

Alternatively, they could read more than three abstracts, and find a better definition.

Regardless, there’s enough evidence for a ban, and also quantifiable metrics that could be used to define one.

I’d expect the regulators and scientific community to do better than my proposal.

Antivaxxers are a supplements-industry bonanza.

I didn’t. You cited pharmaceutical profit motive as a reason to suspect vaccines. I’m pointing out that there is a similar motivation in pushing antivax material. The unregulated industry ruthlessly exploiting the masses is more one than the other.

I agree the supplement industry is a massive grift. It seems you assumed I didn't think that? Either way, you did change the subject, and I still have no idea why, other than to just put up a talking point.

Instead it’s based in observable evidence. I’m reasonably sure quantum mechanics, relativity and chemistry work because my cell phone relies on them, and there are reproducible scientific experiments that test those theories. The same is true of vaccines.

If we were well into Trump’s 25th term in office, and no other living being had seen a cell phone turn on, but some underground cult worshipped broken iPhones, then you could argue they had a religious belief in things like relativity and quantum mechanics.

That’s not the world we live in. Hell, Mitch McConnell is apparently old enough to remember that Polio vaccines work. (Which is why they let him vote against RFK.)

I don't agree with the OP's partisan take on the issue, but nowhere was it said that it takes religious belief to think that vaccines work.

I know of no other reasonable definition of religious beliefs.

It has nothing to do with believing vaccines work. It's simply taking things they say with a grain of salt because capitalist forces often encourage them to do the wrong thing.