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Re:If you believe in "Artificial Intelligence", take five mi... by ALittleLight on Saturday February 15, 2025 @09:06AM (#43058573)
People in the 16th century had the notion of scrying mirrors - presumably without analogous experience. I'm sure you could explain FaceTime to a person from then. "This magic glass shows me the view and transports the sound from the magic glass of a friend or family member and vice versa, with their informed consent."
Re:If you believe in "Artificial Intelligence", take five mi... by myflash13 on Saturday February 15, 2025 @09:10AM (#43058596)
Exactly. You would explain the concept to them using analogous experiences they have had. What experience has an LLM had?
Re:If you believe in "Artificial Intelligence", take five mi... by lostmsu on Saturday February 15, 2025 @11:04AM (#43059513)
This has nothing to do with experience. What experience can you have when people explain to you behavior of many dimensional hyperbolic space? When you learn SVD matrix decomposition?

You don't need experience, you need some basic concepts.

Re:If you believe in "Artificial Intelligence", take five mi... by myflash13 on Saturday February 15, 2025 @11:15AM (#43059614)
Abstract mathematical concepts can eventually be traced back to simple integers, which are traced back to an experience of things in the world (a toddler learns to count 1, 2, 3).

And it is precisely because higher mathematics is so far abstracted away from physical experience is the reason why many people struggle with it.

Besides, many great mathematicians have explained their knowledge as an "experience" even "spiritual experience". Not all experiences are physical. Ramanujan described his experience of mathematics as lights and sounds and patterns, and this is common among geniuses.

> you need some basic concepts

Agreed. All basic concepts are an experience.