>> DOGE isn't trying to make the government better or more efficient. They want to cut programs and staff they're ideologically opposed to which is in theory all government, but in practice all government that doesn't enrich Trump or Musk.

I may be ignorant, but you're deluded. If you want to argue, please don't indulge in conspiracy theories you found on Reddit.

What do you find objectionable about that statement? I don't consume any social media. This is the closest thing. I assume you must at least use Twitter or some other right wing propaganda outlet to think DOGE is about efficiency.

Most government spending is military. DOGE has targeted things like: Meals on Wheels, the Department of Education, National Institute of Health. The evidence I see suggests DOGE wants to implement Project 2025 with Elon's personal touch. An opportunity he paid for with his 270$ his campaign contribution.

They've been in power 6 weeks or so. I would imagine they are starting with the low hanging fruit such as USAID to prove the model, and then move to the big departments.

I'm not sure what monetary advantage you thing Elon is personally getting for ending operas about transgenderism in Guatemala (or whatever the example was).

But, this is what people voted for. It sucks that you don't like it, but that's democracy.

What's low hanging about USAID? That will have untold consequences such as the impact on Meals on Wheels, which was a USAID program. It seems like USAID was something Elon hates because of their work helping to end apartheid in his home country.

Elon's companies are great beneficiaries of government funding. Yesterday the federal government decided to acquire $400 million in armored Teslas. I have no idea what opera in Guatemala you're describing. That sounds like something you would learn on social media. Not very concrete.

Trump was in debt prior to the 2016 election. Had hundreds of millions in debt that he could never pay. Now he's rich and still scamming because ??? I think it's because he's been so criminal he has no choice.

I don't consider it democracy. Democracy has been co-opted through mass manipulation and mind control with social media. Donald Trump and now Elon Musk have found a way to defeat reality.

>>I don't consider it democracy. Democracy has been co-opted through mass manipulation and mind control with social media.

Hahaha. I think that's called being in denial. "Everyone who doesn't vote the same as me has been manipulated. It's only me and all the people that agree with me that are too tough and intelligent to fall for it. It totally is not because of completely stupid policies or the fact that we lied about about the presidents alzheimers for 4 years."

It's not that simple there are a lot of layers. The rejection of reality, family, and fighting against their own self interest. It's cult-like behavior and nearly incomprehensible for someone who sticks to reality. And that appears to be the desired outcome.

I'm not a partisan or member of any party. I am American and concerned for our country. The guy who won tried to other throw democracy and hasn't ever admit defeat. I strongly believe there's a good chance Trump or JD Vance will be the last American president.

I wish somebody would build a platform where people can actually put their money on these things like the Simon–Ehrlich wager [1]. I'd happily be putting down £100 with internet randos that (absent a nuclear war) presidential elections will happen in the usual fashion in 2028, or that Trump won't serve more than 2 terms.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager

Trump won't live that long. He's ancient and very unhealthy. It's unlikely he lives to 2028. They reject democracy when if they lose as shown in 2020. elections will occur. Will they be free and fair? No.

Well certainly he is at heightened risk because of the Democrat assassination attempts.

Well the elections weren't free and fair in 2020 either, with COVID being used as an excuse.

And let's not forget Hillary claiming she lost in 2016 due to Russia. Sounds like election denialism.