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Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by diggan on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:59AM (#43038193)
I feel like this landing page has so many buzzwords I don't quite understand what the application/project itself is, but I do understand it's universal, runs everywhere and can run anything anywhere.

Could someone who knows what it is, give a simpler description? Is it a OS/kernel? Runtime? Orchestrator? Self-hosted platform? Cloud platform?

Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by arccy on Thursday February 13, 2025 @12:57PM (#43039023)
k8s is for docker containers, this thing is like k8s but for wasm (and even uses similar apis).
Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by diggan on Thursday February 13, 2025 @01:03PM (#43039105)
Ok, so wasmCloud is like Kubernetes, but then I don't understand their tagline: "Build, manage, and scale Wasm apps across any cloud, K8s, or edge" or the "Run wasmCloud standalone or on Kubernetes" part.

Why would you want to run a orchestrator (wasmCloud) on top of another orchestrator (Kubernetes)? Are they competitors? No, then it wouldn't make sense to run it on Kubernetes, so that makes them complements?

Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by jcmfernandes on Thursday February 13, 2025 @01:19PM (#43039299)
You use k8s to manage the machines where wasmCloud runs, and wasmCloud to manage the WASM apps that run on top of it. That's at least my understanding.
Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by magicalhippo on Thursday February 13, 2025 @05:57PM (#43042549)
And then you run QEMU-WASM[1] on that so you can run your Docker containers safely inside a Linux VM...

[1]: https://ktock.github.io/qemu-wasm-demo/

Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by jcmfernandes on Thursday February 13, 2025 @06:48PM (#43042956)
Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by hectaman on Friday February 14, 2025 @08:48PM (#43055059)
As one of the co-founders of CNCF wasmCloud, I can say this talk was ABSOLUTELY an inspiration for what we've been working towards!
Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by brooksmtownsend on Friday February 14, 2025 @09:48AM (#43048871)
That's what people do in enterprises because they have security controls and processes around k8s with too much investment. It's a no-go telling people to "just run this binary on this VM/baremetal machine", understandably.

We've got a few examples on our website from users that (in my opinion) use wasmCloud more for its strengths as a distributed computing platform. Often there's central k8s infrastructure where wasmCloud runs and connects to wasmCloud hosts running on edge devices. https://wasmcloud.com/blog/2024-10-22-webassembly-adoption-t....

Me personally, I run all my side projects off of a wasmCloud binary on Oracle's always free tier instance and it's been pretty awesome.

Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by hsuduebc2 on Thursday February 13, 2025 @01:59PM (#43039786)
Apparently something that can replace docker or build on top of it. Buzzword here once again.
Re:WASM-Native Orchestration by intelVISA on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:42PM (#43044923)
It's a grift as far as I can tell.