Re:CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading...
by account42 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @12:23PM
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> without bothering the real user, who won't be shown one.
bullshit
Re:CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading...
by mike_hearn on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @01:11PM
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Lots of signals used to prevent people seeing captchas when their passwords were being attacked, but you never see it so never think about it.
Re:CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading...
by LightHugger on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @03:03AM
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Serverside of course, but i would think the loading bar can be per connection rather than be per account right? Like a connection is attempted, starting the loading bar, and then 5s later you only allow that connection to continue the load? I do non-web dev stuff so maybe i'm missing something but it sounds like should be easy enough.
Re:CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading...
by mike_hearn on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @05:12AM
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What stops you dropping the connection the moment you realize you're being loading barred.
Re:CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading...
by LightHugger on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:41PM
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Presumably the point is that the user (or bot) wants to access the content, a connection would have to complete the load successfully to do what they came for. if they just drop it instantly then that's a bot turned away.
Re:CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading...
by mike_hearn on Friday February 14, 2025 @03:52AM
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But you don't want to throw an arbitrary five second delay into login for every good user, they hate that sort of thing whereas the bot doesn't care.
I worked on Google's system for solving this. It's a pretty sophisticated analysis that decides whether to demand CAPTCHAs or not based on a lot of factors. The CAPTCHA was needed (at that time) because it's the only way to slow down the attacker without bothering the real user, who won't be shown one.