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Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by transburgh on Thursday August 16, 2007 @09:59AM (#43014)
The first mistake startups make is they need VC or angel funding to get moving. The mindset in SV is bad enough, it does not need to bleed to the rest of the country.
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by pg on Thursday August 16, 2007 @11:41AM (#43043)
Name some successful tech startups that have taken zero outside investment.
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by electric on Thursday August 16, 2007 @11:58AM (#43052)
Club Penguin. It was a Web 2.0/virtual community play. Acquired by Disney for $350+ mil. I don't know if Plentyoffish qualifies as a Web 2.0 startup, but it is making a lot of cash. I could name a few more. Cheers.

PS. I agree with the original poster "The first mistake startups make is they need VC or angel funding to get moving," if by "get moving" s/he means get started. You might need it when you want to expand, grow, get serious, etc. but you don't necessarily need it at the beginning.

Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by nabeel on Thursday August 16, 2007 @01:40PM (#43121)
Hot or Not. Made the owners enough free flowing cash, in the millions every year, that they certainly weren't even looking for an exit.
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by pg on Thursday August 16, 2007 @08:19PM (#43283)
Sure, there are a handful. But the fact that those few are famous on account of having taken no investment is evidence of just how rare it is.

Among successful startups, the ratio of those that took outside money to those that didn't is 100 to 1, maybe 1000 to 1. Where the threshold for success is going public, it's effectively infinite.

Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by rrival on Sunday August 19, 2007 @11:11AM (#44088)
Someone at BarCampBlock yesterday suggested that in the past >15 years, vc-backed startups of all types accounted for 23% of successful exits, while focusing on tech-specific startups raises that number to 46%. It sounds possible, but a source wasn't provided - it'd be interesting to determine how successful these 'successful exits' were, and if the size ($) of the exit is correlated to the presence of VC. I imagine it would be.
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by wschroter on Thursday August 16, 2007 @02:12PM (#43141)
I started 9 companies with no outside cash. The first one i started I sold and then joined the parent company which had not taken in any outside cash. We grew that to $600m in revenues within 5 years.

All that said, I would still say that if you were a BETTING man, your bets would likely go on funded companies.

Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by menloparkbum on Thursday August 16, 2007 @01:30PM (#43111)
Winamp. $0 outside investment, was making $1M/y off of advertising at time of acquisition, $100M exit.
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by corentin on Thursday August 16, 2007 @01:34PM (#43113)
You can include most software companies that started as shareware vendors: id Software, Apogee, etc.
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by aswanson on Thursday August 16, 2007 @08:09PM (#43281)
37 signals was running successfully for 7 years before taking an investment.

http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/bezos_expeditions_inv...

Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by transburgh on Thursday August 16, 2007 @02:09PM (#43139)
Money tends to find success. Not the other way around. Money is put into companies that are already on there way to be "successful" (assuming they are not already). The money just expedites the growth.
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by vikram on Thursday August 16, 2007 @01:56PM (#43135)
I think Microsoft only took investment before it went public. It was already a very successful company by then.
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by aswanson on Thursday August 16, 2007 @07:42PM (#43266)
Fairmount Automation, est. 1996 http://www.fairmountautomation.com/
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by menloparkbum on Thursday August 16, 2007 @01:32PM (#43112)
del.icio.us. $0 outside investment, $15-$30M acquisition. (rumored)
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by sri on Thursday August 16, 2007 @02:04PM (#43138)
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by menloparkbum on Thursday August 16, 2007 @07:54PM (#43272)
whoops
Re:Why is it hard to startup a company outside of Silicon Va... by sethg on Thursday August 16, 2007 @12:58PM (#43089)
Kenan Systems. See elsewhere in this thread.