It's just more examples of enshittification over the decades. Nevermind the checkin, the premiums for first class are absurd (and nowadays there's at least 4 different tiers of flight, not just 2), you don't get free snacks anymore, seating is smaller, etc. Those times of treating customers with respected ended quite a while ago (except during COVID of course. But that's mostly over).

Unless you fly an ULCC, you get snacks for flights except for really short flights.

>customers with respected ended quite a while ago (except during COVID of course. But that's mostly over).

I definitely didn't feel respected during covid. There was a mask rule, standard for the time, fine. But then they give out drinks, okay. They were extremely strict, you must sip your drink and have your mask on again within less than a second. Long sips, unacceptable. Pause in your sip, unacceptable, there needs to then be two sips with an intermediate remasking. The air staff were quite 1930s Germany as far as the rigor of their enforcement of this rule. This has all the charm and beside manner of a driver laying on their horn 200ms after the red light turns green. Quite bizarre, the mask fetish, when most passengers were vaccinated and there's this huge vector of spreading the disease called touching things with pathogens on their surface aka fomites.

Where was this? When I travelled here in Europe we could just take our mask off while eating/drinking. No second rule. That would indeed be super annoying.

What I find annoying these days are those people who theatrically mask up and then look at you like you're supposed to do the same. Luckily it's very uncommon in aviation now. A bit more in the metro but they can just walk elsewhere if they want.

It’s even dumber when people mask up and don’t put the mask over their nose.

You still can.

TSA requires a background check and fingerprinting.

Yeah, but why can't I just do that once for free instead of an ongoing subscription?

Are you really complaining about spending $85 once every five years?

Absolutely. Why have any charge at all? Why is the government expecting me to pay for it? Fuck the poor I guess, they wait in line.

Why should I have to pay at all? Why not make everyone going through security pay $5 every time to recoup the costs for the TSA through user fees?

And it's not like it's only $70-85 every five years, it's per person so I'll have to buy for my whole family. Quite a bit more than just $70! And in the end it's all bullshit anyways. Just a way to sort people willing to give up the money versus those who don't know, don't want to, or can't pay.

Why should I pay for your TSA Precheck? Let’s be real though, we are only talking about taking your shoes off and belt. It won’t kill you to do that. If you have a disability that doesn’t enable you to do either, I’m sure they will make an exception.

And kids up to 17 don’t need Precheck if flying with a parent

> Why should I pay for your TSA Precheck?

Are you really complaining about spending $70 once every five years to give me TSA Precheck? You won't even notice paying for my Precheck.

Why should I pay for your usage of the TSA? Why not have all $7.55B entirely funded by direct user fees, handing the TSA agents cash or tap a credit card while you go through the scanner? Why should I pay for your airports (often constructed with massive tax subsidies and grants)? Why should I pay for the highways you drive on to go to your airport?

> we are only talking about taking your shoes off and belt.

No, we're also talking about stereoscopic facial scans, high resolution millimeter wave scans of my body, yet another centralized government database tracking my movements, having to showcase all my valuables to all the other passersby by dumping all the electronics out of my bag, wasting my time, wasting our tax dollars, for pretty much no benefit. Ooh but I can skip the line if I surrender more biometrics and pay extra! How nice!

> Why should I pay for your usage of the TSA

You don’t. A tax is added on to every airline ticket I buy.

> Why should I pay for your airports (often constructed with massive tax subsidies and grants)?

Airports make the city money

https://online.fit.edu/degrees/undergraduate/aviation-manage...

> Why should I pay for the highways you drive on to go to your airport?

Airports make money from parking and many charge a surcharge to ride share companies.

> No, we're also talking about stereoscopic facial scans, high resolution millimeter wave scans of my body

You still have to go through the same scanners with TSA Precheck

> yet another centralized government database tracking my movements

If that’s your concern, why would you want TSA Precheck where you have to give the government your fingerprints and go through a background check?

And the airline already knows you are on the plane. They check ID when you check in.

> wasting my time, wasting our tax dollars, for pretty much no benefit

Not getting blown out the sky is a pretty big benefit.

You know you don’t have to y if you don’t want to.

> If that’s your concern, why would you want TSA Precheck where you have to give the government your fingerprints and go through a background check?

I'd rather just have practically none of it because it's largely a waste of money and time and a major inconvenience while providing practically little real security.

> Not getting blown out the sky is a pretty big benefit.

Tons of other countries have far more basic security at airports. They're not constantly having planes blown out of the sky. Airlines operated for decades before the formation of the TSA and millimeter wave scanners and taking off our shoes and stereoscopic face scans and yet they were not getting blown out of the sky.

Metal detectors were common since the 1970s. There were plenty of hijackings and a few bombings before then.

Also technology improved that the terrorist had.