Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by throwawayffffas on Monday February 10, 2025 @09:02PM
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Well now that the Donald is running the US and is about to cut subsidies for electric vehicles, add tariffs to aluminum and steel, now maybe the markets may see the light, I am not holding my breath though.
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Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by SergeAx on Monday February 10, 2025 @10:41PM
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Steel and aluminum tariffs will hit all car manufacturers simultaneously.
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by throwawayffffas on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @05:47AM
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If all cars are more expensive, and all manufacturers have lower margins Tesla will have lower margins too. For the stock price the competition won't be other car manufacturers but other industries.
It would be a "subsiding tide lowers all boats" kind of thing.
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by ben_w on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @04:36PM
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I've been thinking, when I younger and living in the UK, all sorts of things (including some with the word "tax" in them) were denounced by the local right wing as "stealth taxes".
Trump is talking about tariffs as if they're a tax on non-Americans, but they're paid for by Americans who import stuff, which is basically all Americans given where your oil, aluminium, and steel come from.
Those tariffs are a stealth tax.
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by pillefitz on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @12:29AM
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Cutting subsidies would weaken Tesla's competitors (according to Musk)
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by wnc3141 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @08:04AM
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Tesla- being more vertically integrated- stands to benefit from disproportionately increased costs for its competitors
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by fakedang on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @06:45PM
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Just because costs are higher for its competition doesn't mean that people are going to be buying more Teslas. Last I checked, Tesla was already down 40-60% in sales at its major European markets. They're getting absolutely slaughtered by BYD in China.
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by wnc3141 on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @09:32PM
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I mean as long as people are still buying cars, Tesla becomes more cost competitive. But in the short run it's not for consumers as much as it is for investors.
You may be right that Tesla will struggle internationally and the car market as a whole will struggle in USA