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Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by rightbyte on Monday February 10, 2025 @05:17AM (#42998804)
It feels a bit counterintuitive to go for a Bluetooth speaker over 3.5mm?

Your low tech car will feel like a emotional prison. Of all the annoying modernities you want the worst one? If you want to make a deal with the devil I would choose rear camera.

Think about it. All the headache and time to pair Bluetooth devices over a dead simple connector.

I would aim for a pre 2016 car. I think that has some margin to the Internet of Shit product lines?

Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by viceroyalbean on Monday February 10, 2025 @05:24AM (#42998834)
I would prefer 3.5mm over Bluetooth, but keep in mind most people get their music off their phones and (almost?) no modern phones have headphone jacks. Dongles are a thing, but meh.

Additionally, modern Bluetooth devices have very little friction in my experience.

Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by rightbyte on Monday February 10, 2025 @05:54AM (#42998999)
Ye. Many modern phones are *@*$ too. My wife is still bitter about not having a 3.5mm jack on hers she unknowingly bought 5 years ago. So much trouble ...

However if more than one person will use the car (incl. as passanger) the annoyance of Bluetooth is even worse.

We have a dongle in the car that is protected by a sworn oath to never be removed from the cabinet along with some charger cables.

Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by fouc on Monday February 10, 2025 @07:05AM (#42999345)
It's my understanding that Bluetooth 5.1 fixes the multiple users in car issue, and it only got properly rolled out in the last couple years.
Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by rightbyte on Monday February 10, 2025 @11:15AM (#43001925)
I believe it when I see it.
Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by masklinn on Monday February 10, 2025 @05:33AM (#42998881)
> Dongles are a thing, but meh.

A USB to jack left fixed in the car is not much of an imposition. Even less so if it can be combined with a 12V adapter for charging.

Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by pohuing on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:31AM (#43000023)
Even our Renault scenic from a decade ago seamlessly connects to my phone when I enter it.
Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by rightbyte on Monday February 10, 2025 @11:17AM (#43001961)
Multi user seem to be the major pain point. I think linked and active headphones blocks the car too.

There is just so much stuff that can make the abstraction of automation leak and you have to spend more time fixing it this one time than saved in the total lifetime of the car with a simple cable.

Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by vel0city on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:23AM (#42999931)
> All the headache and time to pair Bluetooth devices over a dead simple connector.

Conversely, I pair my phone once when I get the car and I never need to worry about messing with it again; it's just connected when the car starts. I don't even need to take my device out of my pocket or bag.

On top of that I get hands-free calling if someone calls while I'm driving, I get steering wheel media controls, I get voice controlled media selection (play playlist foo, play artist bar, etc.)

Re:To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell by rightbyte on Monday February 10, 2025 @12:11PM (#43002587)
Ye that is my experience too. Aslong as noone touches the setup it works.