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Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by xnx on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:37PM (#42969451)
Or squeezing an extra 100K miles out of a vehicle that was headed for the scraper.
Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by woodruffw on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:40PM (#42969475)
Right. I think the environmental argument for EVs rings pretty hollow until we've exhausted the world's extremely large supply of used cars (and built commuter rail just about everywhere even marginally economical; the US circa 1920 would be a good reference point).
Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by maxerickson on Friday February 07, 2025 @07:12AM (#42971710)
If there was a gross over abundance of used cars, they would be extremely cheap. They aren't cheap.

Shifting new sales from gas to EV is also likely to be more effective than wishing for more transit.

Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by woodruffw on Friday February 07, 2025 @08:38AM (#42972362)
It’s not that simple: the economics of used cars are tied to export patterns and to cultural norms. In other words: used cars aren’t (relatively) expensive because they’re actually scarce goods; they’re relatively expensive because Americans generally like buying new cars and therefore don’t support a larger used car market.

Besides, it’s a relative comparison: a used older car is still going to be cheaper. We’re talking about Teslas, which are luxury sport vehicles.

Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by maxerickson on Friday February 07, 2025 @04:22PM (#42977620)
My observation is about the dynamics of the used car market (reliable cars that are out of warranty still command relatively high prices), it's not a comparison to the cost of new, high end electric vehicles.

My point was that the firm prices in the used market actually reflect demand for those cars and they aren't just tragically going to waste, a counter to your disgust at our supposed refusal to use them up. If they are getting exported and used up, that still prevents them from being available cheaply here.

Re:Tesla Is Alienating the People It Needs Most: Study by woodruffw on Sunday February 09, 2025 @02:57PM (#42993284)
> it's not a comparison to the cost of new, high end electric vehicles.

Sure, but the point of this entire thread is making this comparison.