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Re:N.C.A.A. Excludes Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports by yawpitch on Thursday February 06, 2025 @05:04PM (#42966962)
Transgender girls and women are girls and women, and something tells me you would have zero problem with transgender boys and men competing against cisgender boys and men.
Re:N.C.A.A. Excludes Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports by almosthere on Thursday February 06, 2025 @05:11PM (#42967039)
Biological males that go through puberty have a gigantic growth in muscle mass and have unfair differences at that point. The reason there is no complaint the other way around is that those trans men/boys would not be taking all the medals.

Look there is nothing wrong with allowing people to be their authentic selves, just don't create the worlds fastest women runner be a man.

Re:N.C.A.A. Excludes Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports by yawpitch on Friday February 07, 2025 @02:39AM (#42970385)
That is an argument out of (uninspiring and not unexpected) ignorance; there are plenty of “biological females” (technically speaking, we all start there, BTW) who end puberty with more muscle mass than their average male peer, especially once you account for food access during puberty. Considering “fastest runner” is not directly correlated (and is certainly not caused by) “greatest muscle mass” but has a everything to do with proportion of fast twitch to slow twitch muscle fibers (which also has no obvious and certainly no definitive causal connection to a Y chromosome), there’s no reason to believe the fastest human would necessarily remain biologically male, if the dietary and training regimes were entirely equal (including entirely equally funded) and with all other incentives being equal.

Let’s worry about letting people be their authentic selves first, which may well involve dropping gendered sporting boundaries (which primarily exist to protect male economic and social domains from female competition, anyway).

Re:N.C.A.A. Excludes Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports by almosthere on Friday February 07, 2025 @12:37PM (#42975279)
Merge the NBA so there is no gender requirements at all, (and don't have DEI) and you will be left with JUST MEN! Roll eyes x100000. The long term of your view excludes ALL biological women from sports forever.

It is laughable and dangerous. Stop.

Re:N.C.A.A. Excludes Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports by ldipj on Saturday February 08, 2025 @08:25AM (#42982804)
> “biological females” (technically speaking, we all start there, BTW)

This isn't true. Sexual differentiation begins around the sixth week of embryonic development. Prior to that, the gonads are undifferentiated.

> there's no reason to believe the fastest human would necessarily remain biologically male, if the dietary and training regimes were entirely equal

But we already have evidence that this is the case, in world records for elite athletes, for whom training is optimized: the male times are significantly faster than the female times.

> gendered sporting boundaries (which primarily exist to protect male economic and social domains from female competition, anyway)

The rationale for women's sport is that it is fair to exclude male physical advantage from competition. The primary reason for existence of the female category is fairness. In contact sports, there is also safety to consider.

If competitions were mixed-sex, they would be dominated by male athletes in almost every sport. Again there is plenty of real-world evidence for this.

Re:N.C.A.A. Excludes Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports by alexhackhack on Thursday February 06, 2025 @07:34PM (#42967996)
See, there are biological men and women. If a human does not feel like it, what is the problem, what is the solution?

It reminds me of the debate „is it a hardware or software problem“. You could fix the software (driver) or the hardware. Or state „this configuration just does not work“.

Back to transgenders. Assume male hardware with software that wants to run on female hardware. Okay, change some parts of the hardware, improve. But don‘t expect compatibility or even equality to original hardware.

Re:N.C.A.A. Excludes Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports by yawpitch on Friday February 07, 2025 @02:30AM (#42970341)
The reality of biological sex as a “hardware” function is vastly more complex than you are (apparently) aware, human beings do not actually arrive in one of two binary forms that fit comfortably into your bias towards biological essentialism.

Any attempt to divide human beings into two neat categories will always fail, unless it’s a line between the informed and the ignorant on a specific topic.