Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by toomuchtodo on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @09:34PM (#42958328)

I own several Teslas, and based on first hand service experience, your concerns are warranted. Stay out of the ecosystem, lots of other good EVs to pick from (Hyundai Ioniq 6, for example). If nothing goes wrong during your ownership, you're fine. If anything goes wrong and you need service or support, it is a terrible experience.

Maybe this changes if Tesla fires Musk and puts someone competent and accountable at the helm (bring JB Straubel back as CEO, imho). I wouldn’t buy another Tesla until then.

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Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by tzs on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @10:27PM (#42958677)

> Stay out of the [Tesla] ecosystem, lots of other good EVs to pick from (Hyundai Ioniq 6, for example)

I'd also step back and ask if a PHEV would be sufficient. I don't think that there is any time in the last 3 years that I've driven more in one day than the EV mode range of a Prius Prime or RAV4 Prime which means it would essentially be an EV for me, and they have great reliability reputations.

Maybe I'll drive more longer trips when I retire (hopefully within the next year or so) and then would have to use the ICE engine. A Prius Prime gets over 50 mpg when using the ICE so although the energy cost for such a trip would be higher than for a pure EV it would't be a lot higher (100 miles in ICE mode would be about $5 more than 100 miles in an EV at my typical gas and electricity costs).

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Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by bdangubic on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @10:31PM (#42958707)

the problem with a non-tesla is charging… and it is a BIG problem. I own both Tesla and a non-tesla EV which I literally never take anywhere if I need to charge it … the first time you wait 7 hours to charge the car you get it :!

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Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by toomuchtodo on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @10:58PM (#42958905)

At least in the US, almost every automaker has contracted with Tesla for access to the Supercharger network. I am aware this is still a chokepoint that Musk could exercise control over while having a controlling interest in Tesla.

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Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by bdangubic on Thursday February 06, 2025 @05:20PM (#42967101)

I bought my Tesla in 2014 and have 100k miles of free super charging behind. total number of non-Tesla’s I have seen in 11 years charging - exactly two

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Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by toomuchtodo on Thursday February 06, 2025 @06:47PM (#42967671)

Which would make sense, considering how recent the network access agreements were.

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Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by bdangubic on Thursday February 06, 2025 @07:05PM (#42967800)

not sure what agreements and with which companies, I have audi etron and am not able to charge at tesla charging stations

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Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by kalleboo on Thursday February 06, 2025 @07:10PM (#42967827)

The subset of Tesla Superchargers with a MagicDock are usable by any CCS EV. You can find them on the Tesla charger map by filtering by "Open to other EVs"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT2SlIikNRo

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Re:Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany by toomuchtodo on Thursday February 06, 2025 @09:03PM (#42968484)

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44388939/tesla-nacs-charg...

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