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Re:They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer, an Excerpt by sfn42 on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @06:28AM (#42947036)
I haven't followed the conflict closely and I'm not in any way trying to say Israel is blameless.

However your claims here seem very one-sided. For example I've read about how Israel has been trying to provide aid to Gaza but most of the resources have been controlled by Hamas who have been constructing elaborate tunnel systems, militias and weapons rather than improving the lives of civilians.

From my understanding this has culminated into the attack that started the war, and I can understand that Israel can't just sit on their hands while Hamas prepares for another attack.

The civilians of Gaza deserve to be able to live their lives in peace, but I don't see how that can happen if Hamas isn't dealt with.

Re:They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer, an Excerpt by maeln on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @07:07AM (#42947361)
The Hamas only exists since the first intifada in 1987. The Nakba, which displaced many Palestinian goes way back to 1948.
Re:They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer, an Excerpt by Ste_Tokyo on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:05AM (#42950487)
Let us be clear about the so-called Nakba. First, the Palestinians rejected the offer of a state from the UN and started a civil war and then a full-blown war after Israel declared its statehood. Secondly, there was no official Israeli state policy to drive Palestinians out of their homes in the 1948 war. The Palestinians who fled their homes did so for 3 main reasons: driven out by local Israeli commanders acting independently of government policy; told to leave by their own leaders who wanted to get non-combatants out of the war zones; and, some fled because they believed the exaggerated propaganda of their own leaders about Jewish terrorist group atrocities. So they weren’t all driven out, some left of their own accord. We don’t know how many are in each group because the Palestinians didn’t keep proper records. Also, remember that a similar number of Jewish people left or fled Arab countries for Israel at the same time. They just moved to Israel and got on with their lives instead of moaning about it for decades like the Palestinians.