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Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by wordofx on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:57PM (#42927710)
It should be. It’s dumb as hell. Bitcoin and blockchain have no real use.
Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by LoganDark on Monday February 03, 2025 @11:44PM (#42928078)
TBF Monero is pretty decent for buying drugs.
Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by dcreater on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @01:17AM (#42928717)
I used to be close minded as well before actually studying Bitcoin.

There are plenty of bad actors in crypto but Bitcoin is at worst a very interesting experiment that can profoundly change the world for the better. Most is not all of the rest of crypto is basically hawk tuah coin with less obvious illegitimacy. In fact bitcoiners don't consider Bitcoin as "crypto"

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by yard2010 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @01:22AM (#42928755)
That sounds equally wrong as "crypto is everything, blockchain is the solution" sentiment
Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by toenail on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @01:53AM (#42928973)
Bitcoin has lots of uses, you just haven't found one you need.
Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by dmichulke on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @02:08AM (#42929080)
There are probably a billion bitcoiners (direct or indirect owners) and you basically state that you're smarter than all of them.

Just wow.

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by vichle on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @02:23AM (#42929205)
You don't need to be dumb to fall for a dumb idea. Also, the average person is smarter than about 4 billion people.
Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by dmichulke on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @02:50AM (#42929395)
> You don't need to be dumb to fall for a dumb idea

I get you can do something stupid in a rush but the longer you have time to reconsider, the higher the likelihood that you "didn't just fall for a dumb idea". Bitcoin is 15 years old.

> Also, the average person is smarter than about 4 billion people.

Bitcoiners are drawn from a normal distribution and not from the bottom part of the distribution, so that argument doesn't really work here.

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by kidintech on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:19AM (#42931397)
> Bitcoiners are drawn from a normal distribution and not from the bottom part of the distribution

I think it's objective truth to note that "Bitcoiners" are predominantly comprised of:

a) people conducting illegal affairs (don't read this as "illegal" in the sense of jaywalking)

b) technically illiterate people, down on their luck and hoping to get rich quickly

With those in mind, I would argue that "Bitcoiners" are instead drawn from the left side of most distributions.

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by dmichulke on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @05:22AM (#42946521)
Do you have any facts to support your assumptions a) or b)?
Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by malthaus on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @02:43AM (#42929350)
and the true believers of those are maybe 0.001%, the rest are just hoping for a quick buck by riding the wave

cryptocurrencies are a failure and net negative, and the longer we hold on to believing they aren't, the more damage we are doing

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by zigman1 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:28AM (#42931472)
A lot of things are net negative and straight up dangerous

But we keep doing them because enough people can get money out of it

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by dandanua on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:38AM (#42931565)
There are less than 5 billion smartphone users, and you think every fifth has a bitcoin? Though, I'm not surprised hearing such estimations from a bitcoiner.

Anyway, no matter how large the unity of dumbs is or how passionate they are about their goal, it won't make them smarter. What they can achieve, though, is making other people dumber than they are, so that they can appear relatively "smarter".

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by EFreethought on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @10:31AM (#42933632)
A lot (if not most) bitcoiners think they are smarter than all the non-bitcoiners.

Do you object to that?

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by dmichulke on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @05:20AM (#42946496)
Let's say they're taking a financial risk which incentivizes (some of) them to study the matter more closely than someone else that is not taking that risk.

Does that mean they're smarter? I don't think so. It's a bet they're willing to take and time will tell who was right.

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by int_19h on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @03:18AM (#42929599)
The real use is black market transactions.

Whether you find that a feature or a bug depends a lot on where you live.

Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by genem9 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @05:48AM (#42930777)
We have USD for that …
Re:El Salvador abandons Bitcoin as legal tender after failed... by int_19h on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @02:16AM (#42945014)
Now try sending some to, say, Iran.