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Re: by searke on Monday February 03, 2025 @08:37PM (#42926326)
You can't claim to have "saved" money by destroying programs funded by congress that you have no authority to destroy.

Especially when the long term costs of destroying those programs are going to be enormous.

Re: by walterbell on Monday February 03, 2025 @08:39PM (#42926349)
If DOGE will document their claimed savings publicly, those claims can be tracked and challenged publicly. According to their claimed schedule, this will continue for the next 2 years. There can be case-by-case reviews by journalists, lawyers and courts.
Re: by searke on Monday February 03, 2025 @08:46PM (#42926426)
You are the one who is claiming that they've saved $1.82 Billion dolars by posting some random website that thinks illegally destroying a federal agency is fiscally responsible.
Re: by walterbell on Monday February 03, 2025 @08:49PM (#42926462)
I'm pointing out that their public claims require public documentation and can be publicly challenged.
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Re: by invalidname on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:29PM (#42926908)
I'm not a fan of DEI so this isn't in defense of that policy. But are you really comparing it to the KKK?

Seriously?

Re: by zmgsabst on Monday February 03, 2025 @11:32PM (#42927984)
Yes — they’re illicitly routing federal tax money to fund organized racism and sexism.

The same political movement, Progressives, that have support institutional antisemitism for 130 years and which has a string of ruled-illegal or later banned policies:

- Jim Crow/segregation

- race and sex quotas

- race and sex preferences, first euphemized “affirmative action” and most recently DIE.

They recent elected their leadership based on sex quotas and are supporting a group called “The Race” assaulting police in LA, to prevent the law from being enforced against that ethnic group.

KKK.

Edit:

They assaulted multiple towns via their paramilitary wing, committing over $2B in arson attacks and 70 murders in 2020.

They are violent extremists along with perennial racists.

Re: by invalidname on Monday February 03, 2025 @11:37PM (#42928024)
I'm a Jew (atheist). I don't think it's correct to compare well meaning idiots with people who literally kill people.
Re: by readthenotes1 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @12:29AM (#42928413)
What federal agency was destroyed? Hopefully you've caught up and know that it wasn't usaid.
Re: by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:58PM (#42941894)
Just embrace it. If they’re making claims, it would actually be prudent to document those claims and ask them about their methodology. Ask them if they consider any costs from second-order effects as subtracting from the total. If not, why not?

Calculate the totals yourself. Report the data to as many as possible. If you think it will look as bad as I do, there’s every reason to.

Re: by readthenotes1 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @12:31AM (#42928426)
We're the DEI initiatives programs directly funded by legislation?

Trump's executive order only stopped funding that wasn't required by legislation.

If those programs are going to have long-term benefit, then they really should be directed by Congress and not by an autocratic president.

Re: by Dig1t on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:10AM (#42930060)
The president has authority to run these programs, every president has.

DOGE is advising the president and the president is choosing what to do.

There are a lot of people on this site claiming this is not legal for some reason but not really citing any law.

Re: by Dig1t on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @02:45PM (#42937562)
There's nothing on this page explaining how Trump changing how USAID works is unconstitutional.
Re: by jonahbenton on Thursday February 06, 2025 @11:51PM (#42969552)
USAID is an entity created by Congress, a separate branch of government, via legislation, not via executive order. It lives in a separate universe, in legal terms, than entities created by executive order. This is called separation of powers. The executive branch cannot make substantive changes to an entity created by Congress due to separation of powers. It also cannot prevent moneys allocated by Congress to USAID from being spent, due to impoundment. These are tenets for you to learn, not argue about. The world was not invented with your birth, when you fell out of the coconut tree. You live in an inheritance, a world in which all of this- laws, independent branches, etc etc was already worked out, over many distinct countries and legal regimes over thousands of years.