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Re:DeepSeek gives Europe's tech firms a chance to catch up by lnsru on Monday February 03, 2025 @07:23AM (#42917466)
You just wrote my thoughts in polite manner. I am adding up, that German universities have no capability to do applied research. All the time everything “applied” was not worthy for them. “Applied” was the level of Hochschule (higher school) type institutions. Even being good these institutions didn’t had good reputation. So the best and brightest went to universities far away from practical research applications. The system isn’t built for great AI race. Add poor salaries and yearly contracts for research positions and all the smart pupils are gone. Gone to work for Google or Facebook or even Huawei!

Imho death spiral could be turned by providing enough affordable housing. That would be really long term goal, but the democracies do not have long term goals - the time after election ist time before election.

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Re:DeepSeek gives Europe's tech firms a chance to catch up by xienze on Monday February 03, 2025 @07:29AM (#42917510)
The problem with “build more affordable housing” in countries that are desperately importing the entire world in an attempt to keep welfare programs afloat is that the amount of housing required to be built EVERY YEAR is staggering.

When a new citizen is born, there’s 18+ years for the required housing supply for that person to be created. When a new citizen is imported, they need housing TODAY. It’s just not a sustainable model on a continuous basis, but no one wants to hear that.

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Re:DeepSeek gives Europe's tech firms a chance to catch up by immibis on Monday February 03, 2025 @10:16AM (#42918988)
The same applies to food production, but is there a food shortage?
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Re:DeepSeek gives Europe's tech firms a chance to catch up by Cumpiler69 on Monday February 03, 2025 @11:11AM (#42919666)
Food isn't an apreciating asset who's value grows when you hoard it and is also easily transportable between free markets. I can't import cheaper land from abroad. I'm limited by what's around me. That scarcity gives it value. You can keep growing virtually infinite food in the same land. You can't do that with housing.
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Re:DeepSeek gives Europe's tech firms a chance to catch up by kmmlng on Monday February 03, 2025 @08:55AM (#42918248)
It's not like the US doesn't have a problem with affordable housing, so I don't see how this plays any role in the divide.

Germany has plenty of applied research organizations, from universities (e.g. RWTH) to things like Fraunhofer. The funding schemes behind these organizations are horrible and I would argue that in many ways, they are machines to burn up potential. Even with all this, Germany has been doing okay on the publicly funded AI research front, but that is irrelevant. The US isn't leading because of publicly funded AI effort, but because of privately funded AI effort.

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