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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by minimaxir on Sunday February 02, 2025 @02:51PM (#42911205)
From a journalistic standpoint, it's entirely fair to report on these 19-24 year olds, and it is not doxxing to do so. They are quite literally now involved in the US government, and are consenting adults making the rational decision to involve themselves in real legal jeopardy.
Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by bko on Monday February 03, 2025 @02:52PM (#42922093)
I guess that's good. It's interesting that we're just now learning the names of the people that hope to disrupt these agencies, but we don't know exactly who, or even how many, of these agencies existed.

In other words, there are these critically important agencies that I didn't even know existed, but they're basically the glue that holds together our democracy. Who runs these agencies is not important, what is important is that they continue to run as they have in the past and anyone looking to disrupt that should be thoroughly investigated.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by electriclove on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:16PM (#42922418)
If you believe things have been run well at these agencies (that you didn’t even know existed), that would explain your position.

Imagine someone who believes that things have not been run properly. Now imagine half the country feeling this way.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by __loam on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:21PM (#42922491)
The proper forum for reforms is congress, not steamrolling your way through the federal bureaucracy.
Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by bko on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:31PM (#42922628)
That's another way of saying you don't think there should be reforms. It won't happen.

In the past you had events that reshaped and wiped away the buildup of bureaucracy. Kind of like a refactor. These events have been war or revolutions.

I think its worth thinking about things as a system that we can periodically refresh, ditch the old and start from scratch. It's not healthy to just keep adding layers without a good mechanism to remove them

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by jbeam on Monday February 03, 2025 @04:22PM (#42923365)
>That's another way of saying you don't think there should be reforms. It won't happen.

Because the people's representatives will get in the way? The pesky checks and balances of democracy?

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by JumpCrisscross on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:00PM (#42922186)
> it's entirely fair to report on these 19-24 year olds

Of course it is. As it will be to go after them through the criminal justice system in years ahead. I believe OP’s point is they don’t realise the jeopardy they’re getting themselves into.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by euroderf on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:07PM (#42922269)
"I was just obeying executive orders."
Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by beefnugs on Monday February 03, 2025 @04:07PM (#42923140)
The whole thing is sham, doesn't matter how illegal, apparently presidents can, at alarming rates, and completely openly to the public now just pardon anyone for anything.
Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by matthewdgreen on Monday February 03, 2025 @05:46PM (#42924419)
The danger is that in a system without any meaningful rule of law, people will turn to violence as a means of achieving justice. This is an incredibly dangerous road we're going down.
Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @03:16AM (#42929591)
> presidents can, at alarming rates, and completely openly to the public now just pardon anyone for anything

It's wild how badly Biden screwed the pooch on this one. Campaigned in 2020 on keeping Trump out of office. Not only failed at that (he's more dangerous than he would have been with a narrow margin in '20) but also blew the precedents he claimed made Trump dangerous.

Alternate history has Biden forcing the Congress and states' hands by issuing a blanket pardon for all federal inmates, effective some time in the future, unless a Constitutional amendment is ratified by X date.

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by liontwist on Monday February 03, 2025 @09:15PM (#42926750)
So are public teachers. But I don’t think you would respond the same way.