Re:RLHF Book
by kadushka on Saturday February 01, 2025 @07:56PM
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Has r1 made RLHF obsolete?
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Re:RLHF Book
by alexhutcheson on Saturday February 01, 2025 @08:10PM
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DeepSeek-R1 had an RLHF step in their post-training pipeline (section 2.3.4 of their technical report[1]).
In addition, the "reasoning-oriented reinforcement learning" step (section 2.3.2) used an approach that is almost identical to RLHF in theory and implementation. The main difference is that they used a rule-based reward system, rather than a model trained on human preference data.
If you want to train a model like DeepSeek-R1, you'll need to know the fundamentals of reinforcement learning on language models, including RLHF.
Yes but these were steps were not used in R1-zero where its reasoning capabilities were trained.
Re:RLHF Book
by littlestymaar on Sunday February 02, 2025 @05:28AM
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And as a result R1-zero is way too crude to be used directly, which is a good indication that it remains relevant.
Re:RLHF Book
by natolambert on Saturday February 01, 2025 @10:19PM
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As the other commenter said, R1 required very standard RLHF techniques too.
But a fun way to think about it is that reasoning models are going to be bigger and uplift the RLHF boat.
But we need a few years to establish basics before I can write a cumulative RL for LLMs book ;)
Re:RLHF Book
by JackYoustra on Friday February 07, 2025 @01:30AM
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This is a GREAT book, if you decide to write it in a rolling fashion you'd have at least one reader from the start :)
This feels like a category mistake. Why would R1 make RLHF obsolete?
Re:RLHF Book
by drmindle12358 on Sunday February 02, 2025 @06:28AM
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You meant to ask "Has r1 made SFT obsolete?" ?