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Re:Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex by wiseowise on Saturday February 01, 2025 @02:53AM (#42896679)
> I was born into a clan writing desktop apps in Swing, and while I know why the browser won, Swing (and all the other non-browser desktop app frameworks/toolkits) are just such a fundamentally better paradigm for handling data.

No, by a large margin no. Java is a hostile language to prototype programs at which JS excels. Awful styling, walls of code just to get sane defaults (https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/uiswing/dnd/together..., seriously?).

Re:Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex by homebrewer on Saturday February 01, 2025 @06:17AM (#42897556)
Swing is decades old at this point, its shortcomings have nothing to do with Java. JavaFX does not require this much boilerplate.

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/javafx/get-started-tutorial...

Re:Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex by atomicnumber3 on Sunday February 02, 2025 @05:05PM (#42912315)
"And all the other desktop app frameworks." I refer to Qt and and the other desktop frameworks too. Having an actual language and runtime where the UI toolkit is just that, a toolkit. Don't focus on Swing, that's just what I'm familiar with.