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Re:NSF starts vetting all grants to comply with executive or... by bigstrat2003 on Friday January 31, 2025 @12:13PM (#42889459)
No, that isn't true at all. Employers can only hire from the pool that exists. If the applicant pool is 90% white dudes, then an unbiased hiring process will result in a very skewed employee demographic. Assuming bias based on differences in statistics is motivated reasoning and should not be entertained.
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Re:NSF starts vetting all grants to comply with executive or... by contagiousflow on Friday January 31, 2025 @01:11PM (#42890018)
And why would the applicant pool be 90% white dudes?
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Re:NSF starts vetting all grants to comply with executive or... by xyzzy9563 on Friday January 31, 2025 @01:37PM (#42890305)
Because the non-whites and non-Asians can't pass academic tests as easily?
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Re:NSF starts vetting all grants to comply with executive or... by contagiousflow on Friday January 31, 2025 @02:36PM (#42890973)
And then why are non-white and non-Asian students not passing academic tests at the same rate as their counterparts?
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Re:NSF starts vetting all grants to comply with executive or... by xyzzy9563 on Friday January 31, 2025 @06:44PM (#42893854)
Nobody really knows. A mixture of their environment, parenting, and genetics probably. I don't know what extent of which and I don't think anyone does.
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Re:NSF starts vetting all grants to comply with executive or... by rbanffy on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @05:09AM (#42930488)
> Nobody really knows

That's not quite true.

> A mixture of their environment, parenting

One would wonder what could be behind that... Also, poorer schools in poor neighborhoods because they receive less funding, lowering the value or real estate in the neighborhood, attracting poor people to it.

> and genetics probably

Funny how this always comes up.

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Re:NSF starts vetting all grants to comply with executive or... by contagiousflow on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @03:12PM (#42937939)
Oh wow, if nobody really knows that sounds like a big problem we should solve! Maybe we should fund research into that. And maybe fund programs to alleviate the environments that were created. I'm sure anyone who wants America to be a true meritocracy wouldn't be rooting out this big unsolved problem.
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