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Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by p2detar on Thursday January 30, 2025 @11:04AM (#42879020)
> In a sense, people preaching the coming dominance of AI are suicidal or homicidal, since they are pursuing their own demise by technical means.

Nope, that is an unsubstantial argument. Geoffrey Hinton, the „God father of AI“ is neither suicidal, nor homicidal.

Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by lokimedes on Thursday January 30, 2025 @11:18AM (#42879210)
He is also not cheering its “coming” but worried about the misuse of its power. You can say the same thing about other powerful inventions and their inventors.
Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by p2detar on Thursday January 30, 2025 @12:46PM (#42880104)
Hinton's views on human consciousness would seem remarkably "unhuman" coming from your PoV and if I understand you correctly. I think his point is based more on self-preservation rather than idolatry. My observations about him are that he does like AI and welcomes AGI. He does not think we humans as species are anything special.

edit: typos

Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by mistrial9 on Thursday January 30, 2025 @01:41PM (#42880731)
true! there is a macabre vein of history in tech where "the inventor is killed by their creation" .. the list is longer than you might think at first
Re:Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence ... by haswell on Thursday January 30, 2025 @12:47PM (#42880131)
They are suicidal/homicidal in the way the passengers on the Titan submersible were suicidal/homicidal. Which is to say that they weren’t.

But while their goal was not to die, their lack of concern about the risks killed them anyway.

This belongs in the “If they fully comprehended the risks, their behavior could only be described as suicidal” category.