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Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by basileafe on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @01:15PM (#42868858)
Remember when Open AI CTO squirms In response to a question about using data from YouTube? https://digg.com/digg-vids/link/open-ai-ceo

OpenAI's CTO, Mira Murati, found herself in a tight spot when questioned about using YouTube data to train Sora. Her uncertain response has sparked controversy and raised concerns about their ethics in collecting and training data. This incident has fueled a growing debate about AI companies' data practices.

Then YouTube's CEO, Neal Mohan said, if OpenAI used YouTube content without permission, it would violate their terms of service. Shall Neal freakout like how they are now!! Clearly they are scared, they know people are canceling their subscriptions with them to and use free and better technologies. I know of 100 of people canceled their gpt subscription. Many developers are replacing the expensive gpt models for free deepseek.

Here is the AI current story:

Imagine two AI trains chugging along the tracks of innovation. The first, driven by OpenAI, was the early leader, after they using Google transformers (and without they wouldn't exist). They charged a hefty fare for anyone to hop aboard. We don't know how they trained their data. And big companies felt they had to buy tickets or risk being left behind. OpenAI thought they were the only engine in town. But then, another train pulled up alongside them. This new locomotive, powered by smart folks at DeepSeek, matched OpenAI's speed and fancy gadgets, if not better. The kicker? Everyone could ride for free!

Now, OpenAI's train is losing steam. People are jumping ship, with hundreds canceling their pricey GPT subscriptions. Meanwhile, the free train is picking up speed, aiming to make AI available to all.

In this tale of two trains, OpenAI might need to change their name to "ClosedAI" if they keep putting up barriers, being closed. The free and open train? That's the one chugging towards a brighter, better, free AI future for everyone.

deepseek = Open AI

Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by maybelsyrup on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @03:07PM (#42870443)
> In this tale of two trains, OpenAI might need to change their name to "ClosedAI" if they keep putting up barriers, being closed. The free and open train? That's the one chugging towards a brighter, better, free AI future for everyone.

This answer itself is an AI product, right? Like you're making a meta-point about something

Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by alecco on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:32PM (#42869968)
Deepseek is remarkable, but they explicitly say they built on top of Meta's Llama and Alibaba's Qwen. They scored the goal but there were other players involved to get there.
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by boroboro4 on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:52PM (#42870232)
I feel like you confuse this with their distill models (i.e. 1.5/7/8/32/70B) being build on top of Llama & Qwen models. But those aren't really remarkable models.

Truly remarkable model is DeepSeek-R1, and it's their model, with very particular DeepSeek architecture. Of course they build on the knowledge of other labs, just like other labs build on the top of their/others knowledge. They are miles ahead of Meta in terms of the base architecture at the moment, and you can watch them iterating throughout last year to come to where they are now.

Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by rtkwe on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:39PM (#42870072)
That's true of practically everything though. Completely out of the blue technical inventions are pretty rare.
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by delgaudm on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:03PM (#42869545)
OT, but whoa... Digg. There is a name from the past.
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by wholinator2 on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:16PM (#42869728)
Right? That's so strange. I went for a look around and saw "articles" with apparently tens of thousands of "reads" but 0 comments. I don't know if they're locked behind a login or what but it feels like something is off there
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by exe34 on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:11PM (#42869649)
Now that's a name I have not heard in a long time...
Re:DeepSeek proves the future of LLMs is open-source by joshl32532 on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @03:03PM (#42870384)
> I know of 100 of people canceled their gpt subscription.

Did you make a poll or something?