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Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by krageon on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @06:07AM (#42863664)
It's absorbed through the skin, so that doesn't actually solve the issue of having it in your body.
Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by sethammons on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:36AM (#42864162)
the people down voting the idea of skin absorption as a meaningful vector for getting things into your body remind me of the people a hundred years ago who thought animals cannot feel anything.

I'm wondering if the plastics in modern clothing are similarly exposing our systems to microplastics -- maybe not as bad as cooking in plastic, but a constant light abrasion all day, every day, for your whole life.

Our biologies didn't evolve with these synthetics. Not a big stretch to think our biologies won't handle them well.

Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by marcosdumay on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @08:32AM (#42864705)
Differently from simple chemical substances, microplastics absorption through the skin is kind of an extraordinary claim.

Until we get any evidence of it, I'd say the answer is no, it doesn't.

Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by jajko on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @09:16AM (#42865128)
I'd say more nano-plastics. And pathway is more oral ingestion or breathing them in when they get loose from clothing. For sure, form time to time we breathe in one of those super thin 'hair'.

Home dust is visibly composed out of those too and it takes just a bit of sunlight to see them dance mid air in non-small numbers. It would be impossible to not breathe them in, or swallow some on food.

Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by weberer on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @09:46AM (#42865455)
>I'm wondering if the plastics in modern clothing are similarly exposing our systems to microplastics

I bet we inhale a lot of it via lint.

Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by zorrolovsky on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @01:02PM (#42868663)
https://ceh.org/latest/news-coverage/do-your-workout-clothes...

Looks like plastics can enter the body through sweat glands. I threw away all my polyester workout clothing (which I loved to use) because of this concern.

Call me paranoid but I'm going 100% cotton and linen. Not keen on getting my hormones disrupted by inhaling and absorbing microplastics!

Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by hinkley on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:28PM (#42869909)
Polypropylene seems to be a fairly biologically safe plastic. It makes a great base layer. And we serve hot foods in it.
Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by mattmatheson on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @06:55PM (#42872977)
> If and how our workout clothes are leaching microplastics and endocrine disruptors directly into our bodies is theoretical, though

From the linked article.

Also, I'd love to hear this from an article that isn't published by goop

Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by bell-cot on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:11AM (#42864015)
The dose makes the poison. And the phrase "absorbed through the skin" admits a very wide range of absorption rates.
Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by londons_explore on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:34AM (#42864152)
Interestingly there are some materials the absorb through the skin far faster than you'd expect. ie. they soak in just like a tissue soaks up water.
Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by gilleain on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:49AM (#42864297)
Dimethylmercury, for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylmercury
Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by bell-cot on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @11:38AM (#42867279)
True...but Hg(CH3)2 is so much of a "MSDS from the 11th circle of hell" corner case that only expendables in heavily armored moon suits should ever go near the stuff.
Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by MaKey on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @12:00PM (#42867704)
Yet a German synthesized it in his basement and used it to poison a colleague: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/07/german-who-poi...

A crime as heinous as the substance that was used. It's a miracle that he didn't kill himself or one of his family members with it.

Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by sethammons on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:43AM (#42864237)
hydrofluoric acid. Get some on your skin, and you don't even feel a burn. But within minutes or hours, you may have demineralized your bones, causing them to go beyond brittle
Re:Bacteria (and Their Metabolites) and Depression by FollowingTheDao on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:40AM (#42864203)
The paper seems to conclude that we do not know the safe dose. And we are not talking death, but suffering.

So taken together, there would seem to be good reason to continue to continue to unravel the long-hypothesized inflammation/depression connection, and particularly in regards to possible exacerbating factors such as higher levels of M. morganii infection or even higher environmental exposure to diethanolamine. We seem to have a lot to learn here!