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Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by Dalewyn on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @08:53PM (#42860581)
>I built a house without codes or inspection for $30k

You will, of course, not be able to get insurance nor sell the house later on, among many other hurdles related to liability.

Not dissing the idea of DIY, to be clear. Just noting for the audience that freedom is power and power is responsibility.

Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by s1artibartfast on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:23PM (#42860762)
You would also save 30k in insurance premiums pretty quickly.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by Ferret7446 on Thursday January 30, 2025 @04:13AM (#42876225)
You can also lose a cute half a million in liability pretty quickly if something happens.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by s1artibartfast on Thursday January 30, 2025 @01:42PM (#42880744)
Seems like more of a scare tactic than anything, and not one I would be worried about.

In my opinion, most people are so obsessive about mitigating exceedingly rare downside risk that they throw their whole lives away, leaving nothing worth protecting.

Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by ty6853 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @08:56PM (#42860601)
Someone would buy it for $30k cash, if it were for sale.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by doodlebugging on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:24PM (#42860771)
At $50/sq ft for a home you'll have people lining up.

New home prices are more than double that.

Even renting a home costs more than $1/sq ft per month in the area where we own our rental property.

Congratulations. You sound like you'd fit right in with my family. Most of us have been building things for a long time.

Note to anyone else who might want to give it a whirl - you don't have to buy all the tools. Most of them and all the larger tools are available to rent on long or short-term rental contracts at rates that will save you money if you're only gonna do the project once. The skills are the important things to own yourself.

Be open to learning and unafraid of the mantra that you either do it right or you do it over again until you have done it right.

Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by cudgy on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:28AM (#42864112)
Also consider Buying tools new, and then selling them when you’re done, especially for those that you need for long periods during the project. Tools tend to sell for decent prices and quickly in the aftermarket as they are practical items that people need to use to make more money.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by forgetfreeman on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @08:58PM (#42860619)
Code compliance is not a prerequisite for selling a property with a structure on it, and it isn't a guarantee that you can't get the structure insured. If it was you'd never be able to get homeowner's insurance on older homes.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by zdragnar on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:30PM (#42860811)
This depends heavily on where you live. I bought a house in a city with a realtor who was fairly new and didn't realize the city mandated inspections upon sale. When I tried to sell the same house a few years later, the buyer's agent did know about it, and when the city came out, they required several updates to the electrical wiring in the garage and to replace an old-style gas valve that had fallen out of code.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by ty6853 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:36PM (#42860850)
What if the house isn't sold, just the company that owns it?
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by zdragnar on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @10:45PM (#42861282)
Neither I nor (to my knowledge) the previous owners were in any way penalized or even notified that the required inspection was missed when I bought the house and registered it as my primary residence at the city hall (for property tax purposes).

It mostly seemed like something to benefit buyers given that, and I would assume that a company changing hands would mean the the purchasing party has already done their due diligence.

Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by forgetfreeman on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @10:11PM (#42861068)
Oh that's fascinating, what state was this in?
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by zdragnar on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @10:39PM (#42861237)
This was some years back in Minnesota. The particular town (a suburb of Minneapolis) was apparently infamous for nanny-state governance, and nothing of what I've heard since has me wanting to go back.

With that said, I've still got a few friends who enjoy living there, so to each their own I suppose.

Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by potato3732842 on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @06:14AM (#42863706)
Yeah that's pretty typical. Every city has at least a few of those rich suburbs full of jerks that run the town that way. I bet they probably have a bunch of police policies that amount to "harass the crap out of anyone who can't just pay for compliance with everyone" too.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by zdragnar on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @02:24PM (#42869858)
Honestly, I wasn't even in one of the "rich" suburbs. Unfortunately, the whole area tends to want to mimic the worst of other metro policies.

The police were actually pretty decent, as was enforcement of other policies like "your grass is half an inch too long" type stuff that I'd heard of elsewhere. For the most part, if the house didn't look like a junkyard or have a lot of visible peeling paint, they didn't pester people overmuch.

Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by mmooss on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:12PM (#42860701)
I expect older homes are grandparented into code approval?
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by s1artibartfast on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:24PM (#42860765)
Some us counties* don't even have code enforcement departments.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by elif on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:47PM (#42860923)
It is for mortgages
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by forgetfreeman on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @10:18PM (#42861123)
It absolutely is not. I've purchased two (2) homes with catastrophic damage to their foundations and structural members, bad plumbing, and worse wiring. The mortgage company didn't make a peep. The insurance company did pitch a bitch about a brick porch attached to one of the homes, so I ended up spending a day and a half repointing it, but that's all.
Re:The Americans Pledging to Buy Less–Or Even Nothing by cudgy on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @07:31AM (#42864130)
I’m not sure where you live, but mortgage companies require inspection reports and if the inspection fails of structural condition, you’re not getting a mortgage where I live.