Re:DeepSeek releases Janus Pro, a text-to-image generator [pdf]
by whimsicalism on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:15PM
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more of a pivot, China started cracking down heavily on quants in 2024
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Re:DeepSeek releases Janus Pro, a text-to-image generator [pdf]
by silisili on Monday January 27, 2025 @04:14PM
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I'm curious about this. Two articles I've read all but said they basically failed as a quant and lost more than they gained. The wiki points out some losses, but some wins, so is unclear.
Have they actually pivoted, or are they just messing around to see what sticks?
Re:DeepSeek releases Janus Pro, a text-to-image generator [pdf]
by sudosysgen on Monday January 27, 2025 @04:19PM
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Didn't they crack down mostly on HFT? I haven't heard of a huge crackdown on low/medium frequency quants, and LLM research has low crossover with high freq. quant stuff
Re:DeepSeek releases Janus Pro, a text-to-image generator [pdf]
by whimsicalism on Monday January 27, 2025 @04:59PM
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almost all quant work is 'HFT'
Re:DeepSeek releases Janus Pro, a text-to-image generator [pdf]
by frankc on Monday January 27, 2025 @08:06PM
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This is wrong. There are plenty of quant strategies that aren't a race.
Re:DeepSeek releases Janus Pro, a text-to-image generator [pdf]
by whimsicalism on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @10:20AM
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most quant money/employment is among market makers who are not holding for longer than a day and most trades probably complete within a few seconds.
regardless, high-flyer is an HFT firm
Re:DeepSeek releases Janus Pro, a text-to-image generator [pdf]
by sudosysgen on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @07:47PM
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Trading within a few seconds is not really considered HFT, it's mid-freq nowadays. High frequency is in microseconds end to end nowadays.
High-Flyer says it took directional bets and held positions, which makes at least part of it not HFT.
Also, I doubt that most quant money is in market making nowadays. That was true at some point and that's true of HFT, but I doubt it is of quant trading in general anymore.
Besides, High Flyer certainly isn't a market maker, or they wouldn't be a hedge fund. You can't really be both, hence with Citadel and Citadel Securities (Market Maker) are so strictly divided.
Re:DeepSeek releases Janus Pro, a text-to-image generator [pdf]
by sudosysgen on Monday January 27, 2025 @08:29PM
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Absolutely not. The large majority quant work is mid frequency, on the other of seconds to minutes.