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Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by wraptile on Monday January 27, 2025 @02:53AM (#42838510)
In my opinion this is clearly a display of a character flaw. I simply don't trust Proton now that it's CEO revealed itself to be of such flawed thought. Isn't that the whole job of a CEO?
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by pixxel on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:25AM (#42838719)
Character flaws now include people you disagree with. JFC.
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by wraptile on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:39AM (#42838786)
Way to twist it to "opinion battles" but Swiss CEO diving head first into American meme politics and following up _on the official account of Proton_ is very clearly a character flaw. Feel free to disagree but keep it to yourself, thanks.
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by philwelch on Monday January 27, 2025 @11:39AM (#42842941)
“Meme politics” is when someone endorses the head of the DOJ antitrust division?
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by xcv123 on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:20AM (#42838687)
Normal adults can accept that others have different political views. His views seem kind of mundane. Majority voted for Trump. It's just ordinary politics.

You sound like an ideological extremist to make such a big deal out of that. I think you are the one who has a defective thought process.

This is the post. Just expressing a normal political opinion. https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by wraptile on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:41AM (#42838802)
Nah normal adults vote with their senses, judgement and their spine. I'm not an American, neither is Proton. Keep your clowns inside of your clown car.
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by angoragoats on Monday January 27, 2025 @08:09AM (#42840737)
Nothing about anything occurring right now in the United States is “ordinary politics” and saying that anyone who disapproves of someone siding with a fascist regime has a “defective thought process” is doing the work of the fascist regime for them.
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Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by AnimalMuppet on Monday January 27, 2025 @04:38PM (#42845934)
Whether or not it objectively meets the definition of a fascist regime, you can't talk to people that way here.
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by angoragoats on Monday January 27, 2025 @07:40PM (#42847606)
I didn’t see what the post you’re replying to said before it got flagged, but if it was objecting to me labeling the government as fascist, I’ll point to “The 14 Characteristics of Fascism” by political scientist Lawrence Britt [0]. The current government clearly checks at least 12 of the 14 boxes here, and I could probably make reasonable arguments for the rest.

[0] https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by AnimalMuppet on Monday January 27, 2025 @08:29PM (#42847896)
> The current government clearly checks at least 12 of the 14 boxes here...

Well, I wouldn't go that far. But out of curiosity, which two do you think it doesn't check?

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by angoragoats on Monday January 27, 2025 @08:59PM (#42848090)
10. Labor Power is suppressed and 14. Fraudulent elections. But they're both more of a "not yet, at least..." for me.

> Well, I wouldn't go that far.

Which others do you feel are not applicable? I have concrete examples for all of the others.

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by angoragoats on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:03AM (#42852387)
Heh, I wrote the parent comment last night, and saw this story this morning:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-28/trump-fir...

So we're pretty quickly heading toward #10 being checked off as well.

Regarding the last item, VP Trump said some weird things about President Musk helping with voting machines (during his speeches at the inauguration, or maybe in the days after -- I can't keep track anymore). To be clear, I don't think that rises to the level of "fraudulent elections." But it is something that I think is worth investigating further, if we as a nation care about free and fair elections anymore.

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @10:47AM (#42853641)
4. Supremacy of the military. Trump has been big on wanting to be supreme over the military, but I don't think he's been as big on making the military the supreme thing in the country.

5. Rampant sexism. Sure, he's sexist, and he says sexist things. The person responsible for keeping all the people around him pulling in the same direction is a woman, though. So are some of his cabinet nominees. So while he's in this direction, I don't think he's there yet.

6. Controlled mass media. Again, he's trying (the lawsuit against the pollster in Iowa is a really bad sign), but he's not there yet, not by a long shot. He arguably is trying for this one, more than the previous two.

7. Obsession with national security. Do you really think most Americans are living in fear of "them out there"? I don't. Migrants who are here, maybe. Crime, maybe. National security? Not really, no. (Unless you lump immigration with national security, which I suppose is defensible.)

12. Obsession with crime and punishment. The police haven't been given virtually unlimited power... at least not yet.

Look, I won't deny that he's trending in the wrong direction on many of these. It's worrying. (The ones I'm not arguing are even more worrying.) But I don't think he's as close as you're making it sound.

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by angoragoats on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @10:56AM (#42853755)
Supremacy of the military: his recently confirmed SecDef has publicly supported carpet bombing and explicitly endorsed the killing of innocent civilians on multiple occasions.

Sexism: Seriously? Not even going to comment on this one. If you don't see it, nothing will make you change your mind.

Controlled mass media: Facebook, Twitter, Whatsapp, Instagram, and TikTok are now all now definitively controlled by party loyalists. This is where most of the non-seniors in the country get their news these days.

Obsession with national security: immigration should absolutely be part of this and it's one of the defining topics of the administration thus far.

Obsession with crime and punishment: Trump has himself repeatedly stated that he is the "LAW AND ORDER" candidate (oftentimes via tweet, in all caps). This would be funny given his conviction on 34 felony counts, but I don't really consider anything about the administration to be funny anymore. Also, "The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism": Republicans do this all the time, especially if it involves white officers and Black victims. "Blue lives matter", etc.

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by xcv123 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @11:27AM (#42854194)
LOL

This is kindergarten level of political analysis

Your comment on sexism made me laugh out loud

Everyone is fascist now. Meaningless buzzword.

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by angoragoats on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @11:35AM (#42854324)
Please stop.
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by xcv123 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @12:16AM (#42849073)
Democratic Party ticks many of those boxes.

You are a simpleton if you believe Democrats are pure innocent angels. That is idiotic.

The Proton CEO was not endorsing anything harmful. It was the exact opposite of that. Something wrong with your reading comprehension.

Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by angoragoats on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @06:15AM (#42851100)
I never stated anything about the party that is not currently in power. I’m sorry that you’re angry but this is whataboutism and doesn’t address any of my points (and you’re wrong about the specifics of your post as well).
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by xcv123 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @10:48AM (#42853662)
You’re wrong about the facts, not me.

Not whataboutism.

You completely missed the point. It’s about the idiotic interpretation of the Proton CEO’s tweet. Kindergarten level of understanding of politics based on ultra dumbed down MSM propaganda for brain rotted individuals. He got attacked for nothing by shit for brains Redditors.

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Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by AnimalMuppet on Monday January 27, 2025 @05:43PM (#42846631)
Fair enough that people irritate you too much these days. I can't cast the first stone on that one...
Re:Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN by Vaslo on Monday January 27, 2025 @08:27AM (#42840897)
In my opinion, this is clearly a display of a character strength. I strongly trust proton now that its CEO revealed itself to be of such strong character. Isn’t that the whole job of a ceo? For every one of you, there is one of me to offset you and increase my support of the product. You probably don’t even use them and never intended you, and the rest of the user base is better for it.