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Re:The leading AI models are now good historians by pinoy420 on Sunday January 26, 2025 @07:33PM (#42835933)
And, of course, you happen to be one of them no doubt :)

The classic internet philosopher’s lament: everyone else is irrational, inconsistent, and incapable of coherent thought—except, of course, the enlightened commentator making the claim. The irony is that this kind of sweeping generalization is itself an incoherent mess, built on vague cynicism rather than any serious engagement with human reasoning. If you actually believe that consistency and coherence are so rare, what exactly do you think you’re demonstrating here? Because from where I’m sitting, it looks less like deep insight and more like self-important nihilism masquerading as wisdom.

Re:The leading AI models are now good historians by AndrewKemendo on Sunday January 26, 2025 @09:10PM (#42836617)
You’re free to read all my writings and evaluate for yourself
Re:The leading AI models are now good historians by pinoy420 on Sunday January 26, 2025 @11:37PM (#42837474)
> Iraq war veteran

No thanks. Not really interested in the views of a murderer.

Re:The leading AI models are now good historians by igravious on Sunday January 26, 2025 @09:11PM (#42836623)
> The classic internet philosopher’s lament: everyone else is irrational, inconsistent, and incapable of coherent thought—except, of course, the enlightened commentator making the claim.

But that wasn't the claim. @AndrewKemendo said "it’s an infinitely small set of people who can accurately describe their reasoning - even fewer have consistent reasoning - fewer still have coherence between beliefs" So he didn't say that everyone else is irrational, he said that very few can accurately describe their reasoning. And I think this is true. Very few take the time to introspect. Fewer still will do so to the point that they are consistent in their thinking. And fewer still will will analyze their values and beliefs and get them to square up with each other. Their is nothing controversial here. It's demonstratively true, all one has to do is listen to people carefully and probe them to motivate their reasoning every now and again.

> The irony is that this kind of sweeping generalization is itself an incoherent mess, built on vague cynicism rather than any serious engagement with human reasoning.

I reject that it's a "sweeping generalization" – I assert that most if not all people who spend enough time carefully introspecting and observing others necessarily must come to this conclusion. What about the claim is an "incoherent mess"? Clearly this is a personal peeve of yours because your response is emotional and doesn't refute the claim in any decent way.

> If you actually believe that consistency and coherence are so rare, what exactly do you think you’re demonstrating here?

That's a logical fallacy.

> Because from where I’m sitting, it looks less like deep insight and more like self-important nihilism masquerading as wisdom.

Twaddle.

Emotional twaddle.

Re:The leading AI models are now good historians by darkerside on Sunday January 26, 2025 @11:00PM (#42837278)
Have you considered that it isn't that these people don't understand or can't express their motivations, beliefs, and values, but rather that they feel zero need to justify them to you or anyone else who questions them with the sole intent of proving themselves correct?
Re:The leading AI models are now good historians by throwup238 on Sunday January 26, 2025 @11:16PM (#42837361)
Generally the questioning comes after they’ve already insisted on expressing their values.