Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by LargeWu on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @12:59PM
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The idea that most people just have an extra $7k a year sitting around to put into a retirement account they won't be able to access for decades seems pretty out of touch. A lot of people are just getting by. Additionally, if you live in a high CoL area, you might be prevented from contributing to a Roth even though most of your income goes to living expenses.
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Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by CharlieDigital on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @01:16PM
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Some of the advice thrown around in this thread is so out of touch.
"Just get a high paying job".
"I never worry about healthcare because of my employer".
"Just put $7,000 away into a retirement account and $10,000 into a 529 every year. What's the problem?"
And even if I'm in a position to do that, the problem is that there are millions of fellow Americans (the majority) that don't have these "luxuries".
Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by ApolloFortyNine on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:47PM
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Your on hackernews, maybe you confused this place with Reddit?
This site's guidelines include "On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. "
Generally speaking, that points to software devs, which points to a high paying job.
So when op said they don't know how their kids will save money, most commenters are replying with the assumption they're talking to a software dev.
Also please by all means toss out your own solutions.
Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by CharlieDigital on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @07:51PM
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I like a quote from Stephen Dubner when he closes his episodes of Freakonomics podcast:
> "Take care of yourself, and if you can, someone else, too."
I'm on HN. I work at a Series-C YC startup. I previously worked at another VC-back SV startup. I've even tried numerous startups of my own. But I'm also a part of a broader community of Americans and I want all Americans (and all people, if possible) to do well.It's really simple; I'm human first.
Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by ra0x3 on Thursday January 23, 2025 @12:14PM
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> It's really simple; I'm human first.
Thanks for that. It seems as if over the past 5 years or so, the tech industry in particular has completely lost the thread on this.
Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by ryandrake on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @03:32PM
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Not only that, but even if you could put $7K every year into an IRA, and even if the investment returned a steady 7% per year risk free (HAHA!), in 30 years, it's grown to ~$660K, which, sure, is a nice chunk of change, but at a 3% draw down rate, you'll need to live on less than $20K/year. You'll need to be really frugal. Move to a super low cost of living area and go back to eating ramen. And don't get seriously sick or injured. And don't have dependents to house, feed, and educate...
Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by neonarray on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @01:41PM
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Also the "buy another property".
Like, this is part of the damn problem.
Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by jsight on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @05:10PM
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That's probably why he suggested a roth. $7k might be too much, but you can withdraw your own contributions from a roth without penalty. This makes it a great way to save for people early in their career, especially if they are in lower tax brackets that wouldn't benefit greatly from traditional ira deductions anyway.
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Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by jsight on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @05:10PM
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That's probably why he suggested a roth. $7k might be too much, but you can withdraw your own contributions from a roth without penalty. This makes it a great way to save for people early in their career, especially if they are in lower tax brackets that wouldn't benefit greatly from traditional ira deductions anyway.
Re:Interview with Jeff Atwood, Co-Founder of Stack Overflow
by huhkerrf on Thursday January 23, 2025 @05:25AM
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The person you're replying to wasn't making a general point, but was specifically replying to someone who said their income was in the top percentiles. So probably not someone just getting by.