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Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by falcor84 on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:10AM (#42790716)
Why is it not a bad idea? Isn't it then just an example of Tyranny of the Majority?

Taken to the extreme, we could have an impartial legal system putting in prison criminals from an even mix of society, and then the president pardoning everyone from the majority group, leaving in prison only the minorities.

Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by oneeyedpigeon on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:18AM (#42790770)
Which is exactly what we do have: a president pardoning everyone from the majority political group. It's not consolation that the majority/minority groups are roughly equal.
Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by lukan on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:16AM (#42790761)
"Isn't it then just an example of Tyranny of the Majority?"

And how would you call a justice system, so complicated and convulted and therefore expensive that poor people (from minorities) don't really stand a chance to get their justice there?

Obviously Ross was not in that group, but I see presidential pardon as a tool to counter the flaws of the justice system.

Maybe, but compared to a justice system so complicated, you need lots of money to maybe get justice ..

Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by oneeyedpigeon on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:31AM (#42790873)
The justice system is flawed, but I don't see how adding a political dimension makes it any better.
Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by lukan on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:49AM (#42791009)
Because fundamentally the idea is to be a democracy.

The laws should represent, what the people want. Not a small caste of lawyers and lobbyist what it often rather seems to be.

Presidential power is a direct way to represent peoples wishes. Or well, could be, if the voting system wouldn't be flawed as well ..

Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by Propelloni on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:38AM (#42790938)
Unjust? Broken? But adding one broken thing to another broken thing will do nothing to fix any one of them.
Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by lukan on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @05:47AM (#42791362)
Do you have concrete ideas on how to improve?

And till those steps are implemented, don't you think you would enjoy it, if the next president would pardon Snowden, or your personal favorite case of unjustice?

Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by Propelloni on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @12:04PM (#42794928)
As if the laws and justice of a nation are a questions of personal favorites! Maybe I have read too much enlightenment philosophers, but I happen to think in terms of general principles in this case.

This might be a good first step, too. Read more books from a time when people were struggling with arbitrary justice.

Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by lukan on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @08:07PM (#42799428)
So you don't have them. That's ok. And thank you, but I did read a lot of books. History, politically, .. I just apparently came to different conclusions, but it is ok for me to not take this deeper here.
Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by stuartjohnson12 on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @09:27AM (#42793180)
If my server is unreliable, adding an unreliable backup is better than nothing.
Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by Propelloni on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @10:51AM (#42794067)
Maybe, but do you think it is good enough?
Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by dredmorbius on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @03:06PM (#42796932)
That really depends. There are times when adding backups or "safety" features can make circumstances worse.
Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by falcor84 on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:06PM (#42797503)
Exactly, I've had cases when half-assed "backup" components led to cascading failures that were horribly difficult to troubleshoot.
Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by contravariant on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @05:23AM (#42791222)
In a similar situation a majority could simply make it illegal to belong to the minority group. And without a way to pardon them the damage would be permanent.

You want a majority to be able to decide who gets punished and who goes free, and even the best designed laws will have unforseen consequences. If the majority is 'evil', well there's just not all that much that can be done in a democracy. Yes it would be better to live in a dictatorship of the most virtuous person in existence, but if you ever figure out how to do that please let me know.

Re:Ross Ulbricht was just granted a full pardon by hamandcheese on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @08:16PM (#42799503)
Personally, I view the pardon as a form of veto power on the judiciary. Why is it reasonably that a president can veto controls, but not the judiciary?